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Gun Control/2nd Amendment Discuss Oklahoma gives the middle finger to anti-2nd amendment trash. at the General Forum; Something Mary Fallin should have done but didn't. https://www.nraila.org/articles/2019...onal-carry-law H.B. 2597 passed both chambers with broad bi-partisan support (House vote ...

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Default Oklahoma gives the middle finger to anti-2nd amendment trash.

Something Mary Fallin should have done but didn't.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/2019...onal-carry-law
H.B. 2597 passed both chambers with broad bi-partisan support (House vote 70-30 , Senate vote 40-6). With the enactment of H.B. 2597 into law, Oklahoma becomes the fifteenth state to allow constitutional carry and the second state to enact the law this year. The complete list of constitutional carry states includes Oklahoma, North Dakota, South Dakota Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, Vermont, West Virginia, Wyoming and New Hampshire.
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Default Re: Oklahoma gives the middle finger to anti-2nd amendment trash.

And Kentucky's legislators just ratified their bill last Friday (3/1/19) and Governor Matt Bevin, interviewed at CPAC, said he will sign it when he gets back into the office.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...t-bevins-desk/
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Constitution alert!

regulation is w/n the scope of the second amendment
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regulation is w/n the scope of the second amendment
You cannot show evidence of that. What part of "shall not be infringed" deals with regulation?

An unalienable right is not granted by any government entity. It cannot be removed by such either.
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You cannot show evidence of that. What part of "shall not be infringed" deals with regulation?

An unalienable right is not granted by any government entity. It cannot be removed by such either.
we have an amendment colloquially called free speech but guess what?

It's regulated.
We have laws against murder but are allowed to kill in the military.
if these subjects are beyond your reach I suggest you lie down in a quiet room and watch Animal Planet.
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we have an amendment colloquially called free speech but guess what?

It's regulated.
We have laws against murder but are allowed to kill in the military.
if these subjects are beyond your reach I suggest you lie down in a quiet room and watch Animal Planet.


That silly argument again? I said give me evidence from the Constitution that shows where the Second Amendment may be regulated. Tell me where it says ass holes can make laws to punish not just criminals but also law-abiding citizens? You can't.
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Constitution alert!

regulation is w/n the scope of the second amendment
Here's a Constitution Alert for you . . .

These actions by state legislatures and Executives have nothing to do with the federal 2nd Amendment. While the sentiment might be expressed that removing the requirement of government permission for gun carriage, embodies /obeys the intent of the 2nd Amendment in securing the right to bear arms, these laws are strictly exercises of state power under state constitutions.

Now, as far as your comment goes as a legal statement, the only regulation that can be said to be permissible within the 2nd Amendment is regulation in line with regulation of the rights of speech and press . . . That would be limitations on specific actions that no reasonable person would describe as a legitimate exercise of the right. Brandishing, threatening with a weapon, shooting at someone, actually shooting someone etc., are legitimate regulations of gun possession and use; OTOH, the simple and lawful exercise of the right is beyond any government's purview.

You anti-gun statist authoritarians need to remember, regulation is adjusting for proper function, not restricting action to extinguish function.

Simple question, would you extend your open and undefined application of "regulation" to Roe v Wade / abortion and allow Republicans /conservatives discretion to "regulate"?

I don't expect an honest answer . . .

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You anti-gun statist authoritarians need to remember, regulation is adjusting for proper function, not restricting action to extinguish function.

Simple question, would you extend your open and undefined application of "regulation" to Roe v Wade / abortion and allow Republicans /conservatives discretion to "regulate"?

I don't expect an honest answer . . ..

The rules of fairness are only for the left's enjoyment. I would not hold my breath waiting for any of them to post a truthful reply.
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we have an amendment colloquially called free speech but guess what?

It's regulated.
We have laws against murder but are allowed to kill in the military.
if these subjects are beyond your reach I suggest you lie down in a quiet room and watch Animal Planet.

Tell me how outright bans of otherwise legal items -- such as laws that criminalize the simple possession of a gun or a magazine -- without any overt evil action, equate with laws against slander or harassment or child porn or sedition.

How can prior restraint be unconstitutional for rights secured by the 1st Amendment and be perfectly acceptable for the rights secured by the 2nd Amendment?

If you think that gun control equates on any level with the regulation of speech and press it is obvious that you rate rights on some sort of sliding scale and that proves the Constitution, its fundamental principles and the protection of the rights of people are way beyond your understanding.

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What part of "Shall not be infringed" covers that?
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