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Old 12-21-2018, 11:10 AM
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Lets just track who buys a gun...


Hell! Let's just track how many times snowflakes take a shlt.
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Old 12-28-2018, 12:16 AM
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Actually this statistic is only true if you separated the leading cause of children deaths, DISEASE, into separate categories.

https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/p...p_2016-508.pdf

If you add up all the charted diseases as a group it beats out guns every in age group. The comparison is even less if you include unintentional injuries. At which point homicides are way down the list.

Once again proving that the beauty of statistics is that one can torture them until they say what you want to hear. But it is always interesting to see how the left is always willing to do whatever it takes "for the children" unless it comes to the subject of "CHOICE."

In the USA this same year, there were an average of 4000 abortions per day topping any yearly number of any one category of any age group on the chart.


My point was and is that all this crappo about guns killing so many children.. My azz. Make more busses...

Children die from several events besides firearms. So stop- with this anti gun crap.
Gun ownership keeps all safer.. Without it what's your choice then, the GOVT. .
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My point was and is that all this crappo about guns killing so many children.. My azz. Make more busses...

Children die from several events besides firearms. So stop- with this anti gun crap.
Gun ownership keeps all safer.. Without it what's your choice then, the GOVT. .
as long as they are kept away from nuts. the way to do that is do background checks before sales.
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as long as they are kept away from nuts. the way to do that is do background checks before sales.
I agree. Nobody has gone psycho after he has been checked by the government. [/SARCASM]

The only thing one can do against psychos who do gun attacks is to make them dead, whether they give up afterward or not. Change their names to "Gun Psycho # Whatever". To Hell with any type of institutionalization, treatment, or incarceration.
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I agree. Nobody has gone psycho after he has been checked by the government. [/SARCASM]

The only thing one can do against psychos who do gun attacks is to make them dead, whether they give up afterward or not. Change their names to "Gun Psycho # Whatever". To Hell with any type of institutionalization, treatment, or incarceration.
thanks a lot from families of the mentally ill and those with psychological problems themselves. I'm sure your words give comfort to them and the families of those who died cause somebody forgot to check records and sold him a gun.
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thanks a lot from families of the mentally ill and those with psychological problems themselves. I'm sure your words give comfort to them and the families of those who died cause somebody forgot to check records and sold him a gun.


If the government check finds a person okay to buy a firearm, how, in the name of Zeus's butthole, is that supposed to make me responsible for the person turning "gun psycho" afterward?


I don't give a rat's ass if a mentally unstable person does a psycho shooting and then winds up with a bullet in his brain. I'm not the type to ask one of those psychos to please stop shooting people, lie down, and have a cup of coffee while we talk this over.
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as long as they are kept away from nuts. the way to do that is do background checks before sales.
Most gun legal purchases are background checked. The exception are the few peer to peer sales, which almost never figure in illegal activities.

The majority of illegal gun activity uses illegal guns. Stolen or purchases from the corner pimp, drug, and firearms dealer.

Good luck getting background checks on illegally possessed firearms.
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as long as they are kept away from nuts. the way to do that is do background checks before sales.
Except background checks are only as good as the data in them and the checks we currently employ are worse than crap.

As long as:

A) nutjobs are shielded from either being committed by family or adjudicated by authorities, or otherwise fall through the cracks and never become prohibited persons

and (or because)

B) states and federal agencies that adjudicate are not compelled to report to NICS

and

C) some states are allowed to be off the grid and perform their own checks and not interface with NICS . . .

background checks are essentially useless. If they are useless then they shouldn't exist because they only interfere with the rights of the law-abiding.

A study by the Violence Prevention Research Program (VPRP) at UC Davis and the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health found no population-level changes in firearm homicide or suicide rates in California 10 years after comprehensive background check and violent misdemeanor policies were enacted.
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Regulations and social health programs don't work.

In a state with universal health care a person was not given proper mental health therapy, was able to acquire a weapon in the state despite a waiting period and background checks, got hold of a high capacity magazine in a state where they were banned, and was able to operate said firearm in the confines of a Gun Free Zone without resistance and killed 12 people including a police officer.

And the left claims guns are the number one problem??? Seems we have a regulation problem. But it won't be solved by manipulation of statistics. Disease, taken in general on the whole, kills more children in the USA than any other threat with the exception of Abortion on demand which currently ends the life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness of one in three.

But try regulating that so called civil right and watch the drama unfold
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And the left claims guns are the number one problem??? Seems we have a regulation problem.

As long as humans are human, a million or more laws regulating weapons will do exactly doodly squat. But one .22 caliber bullet shot into the medulla oblongata of the psycho doing the dirty deed will work wonders.
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