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Old 11-17-2018, 05:09 AM
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When I hear "aggressive gun control" I wasn't really expecting a US Congressman suggesting that citizens who ignore gun bans and resist gun confiscation should fear being nuked by the US government . . . And yet, here we are.

One thing Democrats / liberals can always be counted on . . . genocide when things don't go their way.


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But that's just paranoia by NRA that the democrats want to confiscate guns.(sarcasm)
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But that's just paranoia by NRA that the democrats want to confiscate guns.(sarcasm)
Swalwell has been the banner carrier for Dem's advocating a new assault weapon ban and confiscation scheme, he wrote an OpEd in USAToday back in May fleshing out the idea. He is promoting a complete ban with no grandfathering and criminal prosecution for non-compliance.

He also feels Democrats should follow the lead of teenage constitutional illiterates and just admit that Democrats pushing their gun control agenda have been lying when they say the 2nd Amendment is something to be respected:


"we should ban possession of military-style semiautomatic assault weapons, we should buy back such weapons from all who choose to abide by the law, and we should criminally prosecute any who choose to defy it by keeping their weapons. . . .

There's something new and different about the surviving Parkland high schoolers’ demands. They dismiss the moral equivalence we’ve made for far too long regarding the Second Amendment. I've been guilty of it myself, telling constituents and reporters that “we can protect the Second Amendment and protect lives.” "

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/570590002/

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If liberals wanted people to believe their primary objective in promoting gun control (especially Swalwell style confiscatory gun control) was crime reduction, I have a suggestion.

I believe before any scheme of confiscation is contemplated for personal arms owned by the general public (law-abiding & mentally competent citizens), we craft the process and test the execution on the segment of the population who are legally barred from owning guns. Every person who meets any 18 USC §922 prohibitory criteria will get a visit by LEO's and their residence will be searched for guns and ammo. All guns and ammo discovered would be seized and all prohibited persons found in possession would be arrested.

This pool of easily identified higher risk persons will have no claimable state or federal gun rights and in many circumstances, search and seizure rights are limited. Really, start with the low-hanging fruit . . . This would give authorities a test bed of tens of thousands of prohibited people and result in real results in getting guns out of the hands of you know, actual criminals.

Whatever flaws and bugs that will of course pop-up in the process or execution will become obvious very early but the government would have a legal free pass to avoid civil action for rights infringement.

What a perfect scenario for leftist authoritarians!

No doubt there will be resistance in certain jurisdictions given the political leadership in some of the high crime areas; operations in urban areas would need to be rotated throughout the country to diminish the outrage over perceived racial focus. Of course there might be some public dissatisfaction on the higher body count days as that would lead the nightly news.

Overall the endeavor will be positive, fewer guns and armed criminals on the street and lawmakers like Rep. Swalwell will see how bloody actual confiscation actually is for both citizens and LEO's -- even on such a small, very limited scale.

Perhaps when the brutal tactics necessary for such operations are witnessed, the appetite for such folly on a larger scale against 100's of thousands if not millions of citizens who possess claimable 2nd, 4th and 5th Amendment rights, would wane.

Yeah, right . . .

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If liberals wanted people to believe their primary objective in promoting gun control (especially Swalwell style confiscatory gun control) was crime reduction, I have a suggestion.

I believe before any scheme of confiscation is contemplated for personal arms owned by the general public (law-abiding & mentally competent citizens), we craft the process and test the execution on the segment of the population who are legally barred from owning guns. Every person who meets any 18 USC §922 prohibitory criteria will get a visit by LEO's and their residence will be searched for guns and ammo. All guns and ammo discovered would be seized and all prohibited persons found in possession would be arrested.

This pool of easily identified higher risk persons will have no claimable state or federal gun rights and in many circumstances, search and seizure rights are limited. Really, start with the low-hanging fruit . . . This would give authorities a test bed of tens of thousands of prohibited people and result in real results in getting guns out of the hands of you know, actual criminals.

Whatever flaws and bugs that will of course pop-up in the process or execution will become obvious very early but the government would have a legal free pass to avoid civil action for rights infringement.

What a perfect scenario for leftist authoritarians!

No doubt there will be resistance in certain jurisdictions given the political leadership in some of the high crime areas; operations in urban areas would need to be rotated throughout the country to diminish the outrage over perceived racial focus. Of course there might be some public dissatisfaction on the higher body count days as that would lead the nightly news.

Overall the endeavor will be positive, fewer guns and armed criminals on the street and lawmakers like Rep. Swalwell will see how bloody actual confiscation actually is for both citizens and LEO's -- even on such a small, very limited scale.

Perhaps when the brutal tactics necessary for such operations are witnessed, the appetite for such folly on a larger scale against 100's of thousands if not millions of citizens who possess claimable 2nd, 4th and 5th Amendment rights, would wane.

Yeah, right . . .

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I understand the point you are making. However I really don't want anti-Americans in office having a practice run for what would be ****ting on the constitutional rights of everybody else.
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