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At the federal sure nothings being done. The state level is a different story.Anti-2nd amendment states have been enacting lots of gun control to a point that firearm ownership is practically a state granted privilege in those states instead of a Constitutional right.

Feinstein, Pelosi, Waters, Schumer and other left wingers who represent deep blue districts can scream for all the gun control they want because they represent Left wing loons in deep blue districts and therefore have no fear of losing their offices. However politicians in purple and red states don't want a repeat of 1994 where dems lost control of the house(dems controlled the house for nearly 40 years straight) and senate just 8 weeks after the Brady Bill being signed into law.
Gun regulation damned sure wasn't the reason.

here read this :
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles...s-lost-in-1994

and most Americans today including many NRA members do want some forms of gun regulation.

Gun owners, by a 50-44 percent margin, also support tighter measures.
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and most Americans today including many NRA members do want some forms of gun regulation.
Is that because there are too many imbeciles who do not understand that wanton misuse of any weapon is not a good thing?

Morons who do not understand the lawful use of a weapon, and especially of a firearm, will not be helped by more "regulations.

Either way, I don't agree with that bullshlt you posted. And especially not when banning of certain firearms is included. I would go peddle that anti-gun crap in some other country. Not here.

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Is that because there are too many imbeciles who do not understand that wanton misuse of any weapon is not a good thing?

Morons who do not understand the lawful use of a weapon, and especially of a firearm, will not be helped by more "regulations.

Either way, I don't agree with that bullshlt you posted. And especially not when banning of certain firearms is included. I would go peddle that anti-gun crap in some other country. Not here.

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could I say too many morons elected an inept narcissist as POTUS?

or do you not believe in majorities as counted in the united states? if it was put on a national ballot gun regulation would win 60 something % of the vote.
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could I say too many morons elected an inept narcissist as POTUS?

or do you not believe in majorities as counted in the united states? if it was put on a national ballot gun regulation would win 60 something % of the vote.
If you want to call me a moron, can I call you a d**kh**d? Is that okay with you?

I believe a majority of anti-gun weenies is of no consequence.
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or do you not believe in majorities as counted in the united states? if it was put on a national ballot gun regulation would win 60 something % of the vote.
Perhaps that would mean something or compel something somewhere else in the world but not here where the government is confined and limited by a Constitution like ours.

If the Constitution can be said to do one thing it is to frustrate and render impotent the ignorant, emotional whims of "the majority" to use the government to act against our original, fundamental rights:


"The very purpose of the Bill of Rights was to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities and officials and to establish them as legal principles to be applied by the courts. One's right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote they depend on the outcome of no elections."

West Virginia State Bd. of Ed. v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624, 638 (1943)



I say let the Democrat ignoramuses work themselves into a frenzy writing Bills that will never become law. They have legislative blue-balls, you are correct on that, and they are compelled to act -- not so much in the public interest but to poke a stick in the eye of US gun owners and especially, the NRA.

The Democrats have nothing but spite and hate motivating them.
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Perhaps that would mean something or compel something somewhere else in the world but not here where the government is confined and limited by a Constitution like ours.

If the Constitution can be said to do one thing it is to frustrate and render impotent the ignorant, emotional whims of "the majority" to use the government to act against our original, fundamental rights:


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West Virginia State Bd. of Ed. v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624, 638 (1943)



I say let the Democrat ignoramuses work themselves into a frenzy writing Bills that will never become law. They have legislative blue-balls, you are correct on that, and they are compelled to act -- not so much in the public interest but to poke a stick in the eye of US gun owners and especially, the NRA.

The Democrats have nothing but spite and hate motivating them.
I wish you would quit broad brushing people. Though there's no party for me right now I don't put down ALL Republicans or even say ALL trump voters are ignoramuses. I think some of them are following a cult and others don't pay attention except to the big lead headlines.

Free speech is regulated. Assembly and practice of your religion are regulated. None of these is open completely no-matter-what to an individual's interpretation.
The second amendment likewise.
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Gun regulation damned sure wasn't the reason.

here read this :
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles...s-lost-in-1994

Even your anti-2nd amendment article admits that gun control was one of the issues that led to their loss. The author is nothing more than a gun control zealot trying to make pushing anti-2nd amendment laws at the federal level seem like no big deal.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles...s-lost-in-1994
The truth, political scientists say, is that it can be attributed to a combination of factors, and the "assault weapons" ban was just one of several controversial votes that led to the loss.

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and most Americans today including many NRA members do want some forms of gun regulation.
Gun owners, by a 50-44 percent margin, also support tighter measures.
Yet gun control keeps being a losing issue at the federal level. I have to wonder if the people who took the polls were actual gun owners and if the so called gun owners who took the poll know that assault weapon is nothing more than anti-2nd amendment trash code for semiautomatic firearm and that high capacity is nothing more than anti-2nd amendment trash code for standard capacity magazine. Did the poll takers actually verify that the people who took the poll were actual NRA members? I ask because the gun control crowd tend to be extremely dishonest. They falsely claim that semi-automatic firearms are really military grade weapons, assault rifles, and so on. They falsely claim that 10 to 30 round standard capacity magazines are really high capacity magazines. They even add suicides to the number of gun deaths to inflate their numbers.
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Free speech is regulated. Assembly and practice of your religion are regulated. None of these is open completely no-matter-what to an individual's interpretation.
The second amendment likewise.
Hello.

Of course free speech is regulated. Otherwise, dumbasses would go around greeting strangers with something like, "Good morning, Shlthead. I'm going to beat the crap out of you."

The same way the unalienable right to bear arms does not grant anybody the right to murder, or wanton shooting.
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I wish you would quit broad brushing people. Though there's no party for me right now I don't put down ALL Republicans or even say ALL trump voters are ignoramuses. I think some of them are following a cult and others don't pay attention except to the big lead headlines.

Free speech is regulated. Assembly and practice of your religion are regulated. None of these is open completely no-matter-what to an individual's interpretation.
The second amendment likewise.
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Please show me evidence that Free Speech and Religion are regulated by the government as that seems to be your implication. I regulate my exercise of free speech on a daily basis out of respect for those with whom I converse, not because of some over bearing government bureaucrat in Washington.
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