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Gun Control/2nd Amendment Discuss Oklahoma’s Republican Governor Just Dealt an Unexpected Blow to the NRA at the General Forum; Originally Posted by foundit66 Oklahoma’s Republican Governor Just Dealt an Unexpected Blow to the NRA She made the right move. ...

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Old 05-15-2018, 06:43 PM
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The only "blow" to the NRA is that a promise was made to sign it and she reneged. Virtue signalling wins over principle but hey, if that's what you want to celebrate, be my guest.

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I don't remember reading in the 2nd Amendment anything about having to be trained and vetted to exercise your Constitutional right.
The federal 2nd Amendment really has nothing to do with this. The 2nd has never been held to impact the authority of states to regulate the manner of carry and I don't think it ever will. It could enforce a right to be armed for defense in a state with no RKBA provision and a discretionary permit to carry (e.g., NJ, CA, MD) but that's not the issue here, it is only the manner of carry being regulated.

For now, for this particular circumstance it is only a matter of state law operating under the Oklahoma state constitution and as far as the power of the state to regulate manner of carry, the state constitution is quite clear.

Art. II, § 26 states:
The right of a citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power, when thereunto legally summoned, shall never be prohibited; but nothing herein contained shall prevent the Legislature from regulating the carrying of weapons.
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Don't have time to look it up right now. I suspect the bill was to permit concealed carry without requiring a permit. Open carry is probably unaffected. Prove me wrong if I am.
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The Second Amendment should make permits to carry unnecessary. The Second Amendment should be all that is needed. Anything to the contrary is an infringement which is banned by the Second Amendment.
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