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Yes, technically it's discrimination.

There are no laws that I am aware of, that would prohibit a private business from discriminating against people under the age of 21. As long as they are refusing sales to all people under 21, its perfectly legal.
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Yes, technically it's discrimination.

There are no laws that I am aware of, that would prohibit a private business from discriminating against people under the age of 21. As long as they are refusing sales to all people under 21, its perfectly legal.
The difference is there is NO CONSTITUTIONAL LAW that says there's a right to beer or the right to enter a strip joint...

I believe there IS a constitutional law on bearing arms...In fact, I'm pretty sure of it...
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I wonder if buying guns and ammo with bananas and cake is a uniquely American thing, or if other countries with similar Walmarts or equivalent supermarkets do the same.

Honestly these recent announcements feel more like PR moves than anything.
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The difference is there is NO CONSTITUTIONAL LAW that says there's a right to beer or the right to enter a strip joint...

I believe there IS a constitutional law on bearing arms...In fact, I'm pretty sure of it...

Oh stop. Better minds than you and I have been arguing what the second amendmant actually means and what it's intent was for far longer than we've been alive. Even Justice Scalia argued that the 2nd amendmant wasn't unlimited and that restrictions on gun sales in the interests of public safety were constitutional.
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Oh stop. Better minds than you and I have been arguing what the second amendmant actually means and what it's intent was for far longer than we've been alive. Even Justice Scalia argued that the 2nd amendmant wasn't unlimited and that restrictions on gun sales in the interests of public safety were constitutional.
The beauty of the Constitution is that it is accessible for we common folk to read and understand. We are not confined to the rants of the judicial priesthood to tell us what it means.

The majority opinion in Heller held that bearing firearms is an individual right but like all the rest of our rights it is not unfettered in the interest of public safety. The question then becomes who determines public safety. Gun grabbing demagogues offer up the ridiculous proposition that we ought to look to corporate management at Dick's and Wal-Mart to determine public safety.

Wal-Mart will happily make a cake for same sex nuptials but should another baker refuse to make a cake for them, their so-called rights are being violated. Yet Wal-Mart is allowed to independently add restrictions to the exercise of 2nd amendment rights.
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Even Justice Scalia argued that the 2nd amendmant wasn't unlimited and that restrictions on gun sales in the interests of public safety were constitutional.
You're right. The gentleman in the black robe knew what "shall not be infringed" meant.
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This is yet another example of where it depends upon the issue
regarding which tune the right wants to sing...
a) Sometimes they tell others that they should simply take their business elsewhere if they don't like how a specific business entity does their business.
b) OMG! Let's talk about the legality / constitutionality of what this business wants to do!!!



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The difference is there is NO CONSTITUTIONAL LAW that says there's a right to beer or the right to enter a strip joint...
I believe there IS a constitutional law on bearing arms...In fact, I'm pretty sure of it...
Apples and Oranges.

Red State's "discrimination" discussion would be about Civil Rights Acts which prohibit discrimination in public business based on gender, race, religion, {rest of very small list of characteristics}.

You are talking about the 2nd amendment which dictates the federal government cannot discriminate.
Wal-Mart isn't the federal government.
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This is yet another example of where it depends upon the issue
regarding which tune the right wants to sing...
a) Sometimes they tell others that they should simply take their business elsewhere if they don't like how a specific business entity does their business.
b) OMG! Let's talk about the legality / constitutionality of what this business wants to do!!!




Apples and Oranges.

Red State's "discrimination" discussion would be about Civil Rights Acts which prohibit discrimination in public business based on gender, race, religion, {rest of very small list of characteristics}.

You are talking about the 2nd amendment which dictates the federal government cannot discriminate.
Wal-Mart isn't the federal government.
I still find it unfortunate that WalMart and others have chosen to take this path. It is their choice though.

I also wish that politicalwrinkles (PW) allowed completely unrestricted free speech as outlined in the 1st amendment. But PW is a privately owned message board and is not bound by the 1st amendment, so I understand it.
No different than WalMarts "discrimination" when it comes to the 2nd amendment.

Oh, and the 7th amendment is about $20, the founding fathers kind of missed/forgot inflation on that one. Just saying.
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This is yet another example of where it depends upon the issue
regarding which tune the right wants to sing...
a) Sometimes they tell others that they should simply take their business elsewhere if they don't like how a specific business entity does their business.
b) OMG! Let's talk about the legality / constitutionality of what this business wants to do!!!
Personally, I think Walmart and/or Dick's should be able to refuse service to anybody they like for whatever stupid reason they choose. If they don't want to sell ammo to 20 year olds or blonds or Asians over 6' tall, as far as I'm concerned that's their right. What I've found interesting, but not surprising, is the hypocrisy by many on the left (not you personally) about this. They scream bloody murder when a baker refuses to sell a cake in violation of discrimination laws, but they are all in favor of Walmart and Dick's refusing to sell ammo in violation of discrimination laws.

My personal response to this would be to stop shopping at those stores, but as it is I very rarely enter a Walmart and Dick's has no stores here.
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Oregon (Where lawsuits have been filed against Dick's and Walmart):


Michigan (where Dicks is also being sued):


Just two easily findable examples, readily available to anyone willing to do just a modicum of looking before spouting off and demonstrating their lack of knowledge.
Thanks for the info. I was only thinking of how it doesn't violate federal law in regards to protected classes of people. I didn't even consider that there may be a state law. It will be interesting how this play out though, I suspect that the law will be amended to clarify guns and ammo as it does with Alcohol and Tobacco.
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