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You don't enjoy full rights till age of majority which varies for different states. (?) Also your age must be 26 for certain types of insurance coverage to do some things. So there are rules in life. Everywhere.
I don't remember the "right to insurance" in the Constitution...
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Its not hypocrisy, its just your own ignorance of the law. Its about legally protected classes of people. Muslims are protected from discrimination because it is illegal to discriminate against someone based on their religion.
Unless you bake cakes...They you're told to go f*ck yourself...
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Unless you bake cakes...They you're told to go f*ck yourself...
If you bake cakes as a business then you are not allowed to discriminate either. Again, the difference is protected classes. If there were stores that were refusing weapons sales based on race, religion, sexually orientation, sex, disability, etc. then it is different and there might be a point to this thread. If you want to argue sexual orientation shouldnt be a legally protected class, fine, but that’s the difference.
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Its not hypocrisy, its just your own ignorance of the law. Its about legally protected classes of people. Muslims are protected from discrimination because it is illegal to discriminate against someone based on their religion.
An yet somehow it's not illegal to discriminate against cake bakers or condom hander outers based on their religion.

Francs analagy is a good one. If one cannot discriminate based on the first, then it follows that Dicks and Walmart cannot discriminate based on the second.
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An yet somehow it's not illegal to discriminate against cake bakers or condom hander outers based on their religion.

Francs analagy is a good one. If one cannot discriminate based on the first, then it follows that Dicks and Walmart cannot discriminate based on the second.
Until it is LAW (sales of alcohol, as an example) that selling certain LEGAL goods to people of a certain age is in violation, then it is 100% discrimination.

They can stop selling ammo to anyone, perfectly legal. Stop selling firearms to anyone, perfectly legal. But if one is to follow the precedent, the liberals have to face the fact that it is discrimination.

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Does a customer have to be a certain age to buy firearms or ammunition from a licensee?

Yes. Under the Gun Control Act (GCA), shotguns and rifles, and ammunition for shotguns or rifles may be sold only to individuals 18 years of age or older. All firearms other than shotguns and rifles, and all ammunition other than ammunition for shotguns or rifles may be sold only to individuals 21 years of age or older. Licensees are bound by the minimum age requirements established by the GCA regardless of State or local law. However, if State law or local ordinances establish a higher minimum age for the purchase or disposition of firearms, the licensee must observe the higher age requirement.
[18 U.S.C. 922(b)(1) and (b)(2); 27 CFR 478.99(b)]
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Just in,,,;the first case for age discrimination for WL-MART and DICK'S is filed.

Gun sales: Oregon man sues Dick’s and Walmart for age discrimination – GOPUSA

Guns are no different than cakes???? Hmmmmh?,,,,,let's see if that is true.
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An yet somehow it's not illegal to discriminate against cake bakers or condom hander outers based on their religion.

Francs analagy is a good one. If one cannot discriminate based on the first, then it follows that Dicks and Walmart cannot discriminate based on the second.
I don't know what you are referring to with condom hander outers. But the cake bakers were not discriminated against. I addressed the cake bakers above.

Francs analogy is retarded. He has very little common sense.
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Until it is LAW (sales of alcohol, as an example) that selling certain LEGAL goods to people of a certain age is in violation, then it is 100% discrimination.

They can stop selling ammo to anyone, perfectly legal. Stop selling firearms to anyone, perfectly legal. But if one is to follow the precedent, the liberals have to face the fact that it is discrimination.


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Yes, technically it's discrimination.

There are no laws that I am aware of, that would prohibit a private business from discriminating against people under the age of 21. As long as they are refusing sales to all people under 21, its perfectly legal.
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Yes, technically it's discrimination.

There are no laws that I am aware of, that would prohibit a private business from discriminating against people under the age of 21. As long as they are refusing sales to all people under 21, its perfectly legal.
No, it's not perfectly legal. It is very clearly stated in the statement from the ATF. The only thing that makes something like this 'legal' is local law or ordnance.

I highly doubt that every Wal-Mart location has such a law or ordnance. So then it falls to individual Wal-Marts to find out what the local law is.

Age discrimination in this regarding is illegal. It's funny how age discrimination in employment is illegal, sexual orientation is illegal in other situations, but the left just can't see the discrimination in something they are all for.
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There are no laws that I am aware of, that would prohibit a private business from discriminating against people under the age of 21. As long as they are refusing sales to all people under 21, its perfectly legal.
Oregon (Where lawsuits have been filed against Dick's and Walmart):
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2015 ORS 659A.403¹

(1) Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, all persons within the jurisdiction of this state are entitled to the full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities and privileges of any place of public accommodation, without any distinction, discrimination or restriction on account of race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, national origin, marital status or age if the individual is of age, as described in this section, or older.

(2) Subsection (1) of this section does not prohibit:

(a) The enforcement of laws governing the consumption of alcoholic beverages by minors and the frequenting by minors of places of public accommodation where alcoholic beverages are served;

(b) The enforcement of laws governing the use of marijuana items, as defined in ORS 475B.015 (Definitions for ORS 475B.010 to 475B.395), by persons under 21 years of age and the frequenting by persons under 21 years of age of places of public accommodation where marijuana items are sold; or

(c) The offering of special rates or services to persons 50 years of age or older
Michigan (where Dicks is also being sued):
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37.2302 Public accommodations or services; prohibited practices.

Sec. 302.

Except where permitted by law, a person shall not:

(a) Deny an individual the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations of a place of public accommodation or public service because of religion, race, color, national origin, age, sex, or marital status.

(b) Print, circulate, post, mail, or otherwise cause to be published a statement, advertisement, notice, or sign which indicates that the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations of a place of public accommodation or public service will be refused, withheld from, or denied an individual because of religion, race, color, national origin, age, sex, or marital status, or that an individual's patronage of or presence at a place of public accommodation is objectionable, unwelcome, unacceptable, or undesirable because of religion, race, color, national origin, age, sex, or marital status.
Just two easily findable examples, readily available to anyone willing to do just a modicum of looking before spouting off and demonstrating their lack of knowledge.
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