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Old 02-15-2018, 10:31 AM
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It's a shame when so many believe the answer is removing the tool instead of diagnosing/treating the person using the tool...
If a bad guy wants to shoot peeps, he'll find a gun. Period. No amount of gun control will prevent it.

This dude displayed tons of warning signs that shoulda been picked up on. It was a running joke among peeps that knew him that he'll be the next guy that shoots up a school. His Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram were full of disturbing posts that shoulda raised all sorts of red flags.

But yeah, let's blame guns.

Bottom line is libs want guns banned and will use any excuse to do it.
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Going after the tool is the simpletons' predictable, knee jerk response; and I would agree that diagnosing/treating the shooter maybe of some value.

Public execution might have a better long term effect. ( partially jesting....ok not really)

However as mentioned in other posts, these behaviors at this frequency, are pretty much unique to recent history.

This country has been awash in guns for practically ever; and we have had churches, schools, and rock concerts for as long as I remember. These things are not variables. The only variable are the actors?

What are we as a society doing to produce these people?
This is the main issue that the left wants to ignore. As a nation, we have pushed God out of our lives. We have banned him from our schools and replaced him with worship of the state. The left has long demanded that we show a reverence for all things secular while leaving God out of the equation. We have to "tolerate" immoral behavior, music, movies, etc. We as Christians are told that we have to accommodate people and these actions, but don't dare pray is school or a public place, that might offend someone.

And now we wonder why people are so evil?
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I think the monkeys at the school who ignored the psycho's signals did not want to profile him as a bad kid.
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Well, good.

We should politicize it. We should have politicized it hard when elementary school children were gunned down.

But do it the right way. We should tell our politicians to get off their NRA teat-sucking asses, stop listening to gun business lobbyists(Now there's a real redundancy alert), and start listening to what Americans have been telling them to do for years upon years after every mass shooting. And I don't mean tweet out "thoughts and prayers!". I know there's no perfect answer, but the worst answer to this is none.
Ok, please give us your suggestions to help prevent this type of tragedy. Keep in mind the suggestions should address the problem while also being constitutionally acceptable. I await your response with open mind.
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Ok, please give us your suggestions to help prevent this type of tragedy. Keep in mind the suggestions should address the problem while also being constitutionally acceptable. I await your response with open mind.
I think "constitutionally acceptable" will be the anti-gunner's excuse for coming up with some stupid gun control laws.

I say it's none of their business asking stupid questions like, "What do you want a high-powered rifle that can hold more than 10 rounds for? HUH?

The perfect reply to them is "Because eat my shorts."

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I think "constitutionally acceptable" will be the anti-gunner's excuse for coming up with some stupid gun control laws.

I say it's none of their business asking stupid questions like, "What do you want a high-powered rifle that can hold more than 10 rounds for? HUH?

The perfect reply to them is "Because eat my shorts."

Fight school shooters. Shoot them to Hell!
Well, you never know. I've asked this question before and didn't get any suggestions that would actually help, but maybe Wally has something. I'm not very optimistic about it, but like I said, I'll keep an open mind.
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Ok, please give us your suggestions to help prevent this type of tragedy. Keep in mind the suggestions should address the problem while also being constitutionally acceptable. I await your response with open mind.
Oh this should be good.
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The Middle East has 10 times the number of mass murder bombings than mass murder shootings in the US...

I believe bombs are illegal there, so banning them isn't much of a help...
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But it's the gun's fault....

Nikolas Cruz 'school shooter' comment reported to FBI months ago, vlogger says

An FBI official acknowledged on Thursday the bureau received a tip months before the Florida high school massacre about a social media comment by a Nikolas Cruz, who aspired to be “a professional school shooter."

Special Agent Rob Lasky, in charge of the FBI’s Miami division, confirmed during a Thursday morning news conference the agency investigated a comment made on a YouTube video in September that matched the remark reported by vlogger Ben Bennight. After conducting database reviews, however, the FBI said it could not identify the user who made the comment.

"No other information was included in the comment which would indicate a particular time, location or the true identity of the person who posted the comment," the FBI said in a subsequent statement.

The comment, made by user Nikolas Cruz, stated: “I’m going to be a professional school shooter.”

Nikolas Cruz, a 19-year-old former student at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, is accused of a bloody rampage that killed 17 people at the school.

Bennight, a Mississippi bail bondsman who goes by the name “Ben The Bondsman” on YouTube and social media, said in a new video posted Wednesday he immediately reported the threatening comment to YouTube and contacted the FBI. Bennight also included a screenshot of the comment.

“Well, the next day I had two FBI agents standing in my office, taking down the information, taking copies of the screenshots and asking me questions that, of course, I couldn’t answer. All it was on my channel was a comment,” Bennight said.

Bennight said he reported the disturbing comment because he “just couldn’t ignore” it.

Bennight said Wednesday he was again contacted by FBI agents from the Mississippi and Miami field offices — after alleged gunman Cruz shot and killed at least 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla.

“I would like to think that they were already investigating this guy and they had him on the top of their radar and that’s how they ended up contacting me so quickly,” the vlogger said. “I wish I could have given them more information.”

Bennight told BuzzFeed News that Special Agent Ryan Furr from the FBI’s Miami field office contacted him and left a voicemail.

"I think we spoke with you in the past about a complaint that you made about someone making a comment on your YouTube channel," Furr said in the message that was detailed in a transcription Bennight posted. "I just wanted to follow up with you on that and ask you a question with something that's come up, if you wouldn't mind giving me a ring.”

The FBI did not immediately comment when reached by Fox News asking about Cruz's YouTube account, which has since been taken down. Bennight also did not immediately return Fox News' request for comment.

Cruz was charged Thursday with 17 counts of premeditated murder. He was booked into Broward County Jail after federal and local investigators questioned him. Cruz allegedly walked into the school with a gas mask, smoke grenades and multiple magazines of ammunition before firing an AR-15 at students and faculty members.

Details about Cruz’s troubled past have emerged hours after the deadly shooting. The 19-year-old was a former student at the high school, but was expelled in the last school year after getting into a fight with the boyfriend of his ex-girlfriend, a student told The Associated Press.
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Well, you never know. I've asked this question before and didn't get any suggestions that would actually help, but maybe Wally has something. I'm not very optimistic about it, but like I said, I'll keep an open mind.
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