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Good thing, I think the NRA main concern is gun manufactures. I wonder if the bump stocks hurt sales of a certain type of firearms? Or it really might just be they were approved during the Obama administration. But I don't see any problem with bump stocks.
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Good thing, I think the NRA main concern is gun manufactures. I wonder if the bump stocks hurt sales of a certain type of firearms? Or it really might just be they were approved during the Obama administration. But I don't see any problem with bump stocks.
I see no problem with them either.
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Good thing, I think the NRA main concern is gun manufactures. I wonder if the bump stocks hurt sales of a certain type of firearms? Or it really might just be they were approved during the Obama administration. But I don't see any problem with bump stocks.
They've probably been around in some form for a long time, but came into more common use in the last couple of decades since ARs got really popular. I know they make them for ARs and AKs, probably some other guns too.
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Good thing, I think the NRA main concern is gun manufactures. I wonder if the bump stocks hurt sales of a certain type of firearms? Or it really might just be they were approved during the Obama administration. But I don't see any problem with bump stocks.
Neither do I. Rapid fire weapons have been around for decades. Long before the 1 round/trigger pull definition. The Obama administration didn't approve these weapons. They were already legal. Obama admin affirmed that they were legal under the present law.

My real concern is the amendments and riders that will be attached to a bump stock bill.

I doubt bump stocks will affect sales of any weapon. They are inaccurate, cost too much to operate, and are still limited by the capacity of the magazine. Basically they are a toy and make for good U Tube videos.
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State being the operative word.

That Mass has approved a ban on a particular accessory does not mean that only police will have guns in Virginia.

Sometimes it pays to look at the big picture and avoid the small picture.
What do you mean by that? Don't tell me you are one of those people who thinks if we give anti-2nd amendment trash what they want then they will stop chipping away at the 2nd amendment? All you are doing by supporting a ban on bump stocks is helping anti-2nd amendment inch even closer towards their goal of turning the 2nd amendment into a state granted privilege and eventually a ban. Just look at California. They didn't stop with just background checks on guns. Heck they didn't even stop with requiring permits to own a gun. They are still enacting anti-2nd amendment laws.


If you think that mass murderer in Las Vegas needed a bump stock to rack up that high of a body count then you are sadly mistaken. He was in a concealed position shooting a 20 something thousand people packed together in daylight, most of whom didn't know where he was at. He didn't really have to aim at any particular target to kill someone.He just had to point into the crowd. Keep in mind that the terrorist who shot up the gay night club in Florida only had a semi-automatic carbine and a semi-automatic pistol. He murdered 49 people and had a smaller crowd to shoot at than the mass murderer in Las Vegas.
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I truly believe if the guy was a good shot, started taking out people around the edges, I think he could have killed many more than he did. bump stocks might have saved lives.
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What do you mean by that? Don't tell me you are one of those people who thinks if we give anti-2nd amendment trash what they want then they will stop chipping away at the 2nd amendment? All you are doing by supporting a ban on bump stocks is helping anti-2nd amendment inch even closer towards their goal of turning the 2nd amendment into a state granted privilege and eventually a ban. Just look at California. They didn't stop with just background checks on guns. Heck they didn't even stop with requiring permits to own a gun. They are still enacting anti-2nd amendment laws.


If you think that mass murderer in Las Vegas needed a bump stock to rack up that high of a body count then you are sadly mistaken. He was in a concealed position shooting a 20 something thousand people packed together in daylight, most of whom didn't know where he was at. He didn't really have to aim at any particular target to kill someone.He just had to point into the crowd. Keep in mind that the terrorist who shot up the gay night club in Florida only had a semi-automatic carbine and a semi-automatic pistol. He murdered 49 people and had a smaller crowd to shoot at than the mass murderer in Las Vegas.
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What do you mean by that? Don't tell me you are one of those people who thinks if we give anti-2nd amendment trash what they want then they will stop chipping away at the 2nd amendment? All you are doing by supporting a ban on bump stocks is helping anti-2nd amendment inch even closer towards their goal of turning the 2nd amendment into a state granted privilege and eventually a ban. Just look at California. They didn't stop with just background checks on guns. Heck they didn't even stop with requiring permits to own a gun. They are still enacting anti-2nd amendment laws.


If you think that mass murderer in Las Vegas needed a bump stock to rack up that high of a body count then you are sadly mistaken. He was in a concealed position shooting a 20 something thousand people packed together in daylight, most of whom didn't know where he was at. He didn't really have to aim at any particular target to kill someone.He just had to point into the crowd. Keep in mind that the terrorist who shot up the gay night club in Florida only had a semi-automatic carbine and a semi-automatic pistol. He murdered 49 people and had a smaller crowd to shoot at than the mass murderer in Las Vegas.
What I mean is that this is a state issue affecting only one state.

Actually I've made the argument not just with Vegas but in all the mass murders that the use of a firearm probably saved lives. And that includes bump stocks. A Wilson Sniper rifle would most likely have caused far more damage and the airplane he owned filled with a hundred gallons of gas absolutely.

Going into a school with 5 guns blazing is theatrics. Parking a van full of fertilizer in front of a building or hijacking a couple of airplanes is serious business.

I don't support a bump stock ban or any 2nd attacks past "shall not be infringed".
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I truly believe if the guy was a good shot, started taking out people around the edges, I think he could have killed many more than he did. bump stocks might have saved lives.
I bet a trillion to one that the bump stocks did indeed save lives.
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