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And there you have it... His biggest frustration. Those poor old bullies at the NRA won't listen to "common sense gun control" laws.

I think it has more to do with control. Lots of others must think like me..

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Control of the population is the only thing the Kenyan native has on his mind with his gun control safety crap.
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Coincidentally, Eric Holder also spoke of gun control as his biggest failure. Let's not forget Demand Letter 3 and it's relation to Fast and Furious.

The article mentions the Charleston murders but omits the fact that Roof's application was mistakenly approved by the FBI.

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Mr Obama has pushed for stricter gun control throughout his presidency but has been unable to secure any significant changes to the laws.

After nine African-American churchgoers were killed in South Carolina in June, he admitted "politics in this town" meant there were few options available.
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works fine for me.

obama is just pizzed off because he hasn't been able to grab more guns from law abiding citizens.

obama has armed many federal agencies and not being able to grab more guns from law abiding citizens puts a big crimp in plans to use these agencies against the American people.
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And there you have it... His biggest frustration. Those poor old bullies at the NRA won't listen to "common sense gun control" laws.

I think it has more to do with control. Lots of others must think like me..

Regards, Kirk
I would put forward the proposition that, with limited exceptions, neither the President or the NRA is willing to propose or accept "common sense" gun control laws.

For example I oppose mandatory background checks on the private sale of firearms but fully support opening up the FBI NICS database so an individual can voluntarily run a background check. That is not an infringment upon our 2nd Amendment rights.

At the sametime, once a person can voluntarily run a background check, I'd make it a felony for any person to sell or transfer a firearm to someone prohibited by law from owning one that's identified by the FBI NICS database.

President Obama has put forward one "common sense" proposal where those collecting Social Security, if found to be mentally incompetent, would be prohibited from possessing firearms. A mentally incompetent person represents both a threat to themselves and to others if allowed to possess a firearm. This should be an across the board prohibition because the mentally incompetent are inherently incompetent when it comes to possessing firearms. I don't know if the NRA opposes this but if they do then they're not exhibiting any common sense.
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obama is just pizzed off because he hasn't been able to grab more guns from law abiding citizens.
I've not read of any proposals to confiscate firearms from law abiding citizens. Can you provide any proposed law or regulation that would result in the confiscation of firearms?

In fact even when a ban, such as an assault weapon ban, is introduced the courts have ruled that the person has the option of how to dispose of the firearm (e.g. sale it or transfer it out of the jurisdiction where the law applies).

Of course a person that retains a prohibited firearm with in the jurisdiction where it's prohibited is not a law-abiding citizen and in such a case the firearm could be confiscated because the individual is a criminal.
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I've not read of any proposals to confiscate firearms from anyone. Can you provide any proposed law or regulation that would result in the confiscation of firearms?

In fact even when a ban, such as an assault weapon ban, is introduced the courts have ruled that the person has the option of how to dispose of the firearm (e.g. sale it or transfer it out of the jurisdiction where the law applies).
At 8:21 am you mentioned an obama gun grab

at 8:29 am you said you never read of any proposal to confiscate firearms from the people

Short memory span huh...........

There is a whole thread about obama's SS gun grab, perhaps you should read it.
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At 8:21 am you mentioned an obama gun grab

at 8:29 am you said you never read of any proposal to confiscate firearms from the people

Short memory span huh...........

There is a whole thread about obama's SS gun grab, perhaps you should read it.
Under the proposal that would prohibit the mentally incompetent (collecting Social Security) from possesing firearms there isn't any provision for confiscation. That firearm can be held in the possession the legal guardian of the person found to be mentally incompetent.
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