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Old 02-14-2014, 04:44 PM
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Maybe you should move this to the religion section MrLiberty because all I have to say to your post is: AMEN!!
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The power hungry dictator types and their loyal followers who want to live in a world where government controls everything hate the idea of personal responsibility and freedom.
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Well for one thing, all the above who think you should or shouldn't own guns are dead except for Obama, who hasn't been pushing too hard for gun control by the way. Some of the pro gunners above like the founders, believed that only propertied white males should be able to vote, and they also had no problem with slavery and were also anti homosexual. Washington would court martial soldiers for being homosexual. So maybe we should go back to these good old days?
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I initially thanked the post till I noticed the dishonesty of the picture. I dont know that Obama has ever said he did not want Americans to own guns but that in fact the reverse is true he has said he is not in favor of taking away guns.
That being said I know there are forces pushing at him and other Democrats to be that radical. Just as there are forces on the conservative side who would have no --zero--zilch--abortions performed even at risk to the mother.
I know that isn't most conservatives just as that is not most Democrats.
One thing, I dont think we should fall prey to the gun lobby and do stupid sh*t to prove a point ---like say allow guns in bars and government buildings. let's use our heads for once and see that the moderation highway is the best road to travel in this instance.
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I initially thanked the post till I noticed the dishonesty of the picture. I dont know that Obama has ever said he did not want Americans to own guns but that in fact the reverse is true he has said he is not in favor of taking away guns.
That being said I know there are forces pushing at him and other Democrats to be that radical. Just as there are forces on the conservative side who would have no --zero--zilch--abortions performed even at risk to the mother.
I know that isn't most conservatives just as that is not most Democrats.
One thing, I dont think we should fall prey to the gun lobby and do stupid sh*t to prove a point ---like say allow guns in bars and government buildings. let's use our heads for once and see that the moderation highway is the best road to travel in this instance.
While in the Ill. State Senate.........

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Although Obama claims to be an advocate for the 2nd Amendment, his voting record in the Illinois Senate paints a very different picture. While a state senator, Obama voted for a bill that would ban nearly every hunting rifle, shotgun and target rifle owned by Illinois citizens. That same bill would authorize the state police to raid homes of gun owners to forcibly confiscate banned guns. Obama supported a bill that would shut down law-abiding firearm manufacturers including Springfield Armory, Armalite, Rock River Arms and Les Baer. Obama also voted for a bill that would prohibit law-abiding citizens from purchasing more than one gun per month.
Obama's gun-control history in the Illinois Senate

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Well for one thing, all the above who think you should or shouldn't own guns are dead except for Obama, who hasn't been pushing too hard for gun control by the way.
I would call "top priority" and "25 executive orders" pushing too hard...

But I'm not an "end justifies the means" kinda guy...

From the beginning of last year...

Obama Announces Gun Control Actions

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President Obama announced two new executive actions on Friday that nudge his gun control agenda forward by making it easier for states to provide information about people with mental illness to the federal background check system.

Last year, Mr. Obama failed to win support in Congress for tougher background checks for gun purchases and new limits on assault weapons. The president had made both changes top legislative priorities after the shootings at the elementary school in Newtown, Conn.

After the legislation failed, Mr. Obama vowed to take whatever steps his administration could through executive action. He later issued 25 executive orders intended to tighten the rules for gun ownership.
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Tigers don't change their stripes, and if you think obama has changed his mind you are only fooling yourself.
Yes, let's agree that the landscape is vastly different from one region to another and one state or from urban to rural. --and not all urban areas are alike--Maybe what will work in one area would be ludicrous in another.
I feel the same way about water and land rights. People in the east coast generally have no idea what those mean in the NW and visa versa.
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I would call "top priority" and "25 executive orders" pushing too hard...

But I'm not an "end justifies the means" kinda guy...

From the beginning of last year...

Obama Announces Gun Control Actions
Regulation for mental health reasons would not be a bad idea to some. None of this means he's "taking our guns" anymore than Reagan's stance on gun regulation did.
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Regulation for mental health reasons would not be a bad idea to some. None of this means he's "taking our guns" anymore than Reagan's stance on gun regulation did.
If the the go'vt says
"you can't have this or that gun because ___________ or else we will take it and fine or jail you."
That does qualify as "taking our guns".
Doesn't matter if it's an R or D that does it.
Doesn't matter that it seems "reasonable" to you or others.
It doesn't somehow change the raw fact that it is indeed "taking our guns".

taking by dribs and drabs or taking in flood it's still taking.
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Well for one thing, all the above who think you should or shouldn't own guns are dead except for Obama, who hasn't been pushing too hard for gun control by the way. Some of the pro gunners above like the founders, believed that only propertied white males should be able to vote, and they also had no problem with slavery and were also anti homosexual. Washington would court martial soldiers for being homosexual. So maybe we should go back to these good old days?
Right and MLK and Gandhi "believed that only propertied white males should be able to vote," etc etc to correct?
and its a completely nonsequiter.
Your cheery picking your targets and highlighting perceived faults on issues OTHER than GUN RIGHTS, which is the subject of the thread.
LAME larryr.
lol and what about Gandhis Policy on SALT!!!!??1 do you wanna go back to that huh?!? huh?
LOL!
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