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State Department Orders Removal of 3-D Gun Designs
5/10/2013
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The State Department has ordered Defense Distributed to remove the blueprints for their plastic gun from the Internet after it has been downloaded over 100,000 times.

Defense Distributed has said that the State Department informed them that the online publication of the blueprints may breach arms-control regulations. Defense Distributed denies this, saying the blueprints for the plastic firearm were designed in such a way as to avoid this issue.

It remains unclear how effective the removal order will be. Although the files have been removed from the company's Defcad site, they can still be found on the Mega online service, where they are being hosted.
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It has been said after something hits the internet it never really goes away. Is that true in this case? I dont know enough to know if it has to be interactive with the internet or not.
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It has been said after something hits the internet it never really goes away. Is that true in this case? I dont know enough to know if it has to be interactive with the internet or not.
It's probably true that the files will be available for the foreseeable future. So is kiddie porn.

The State can put someone in prison for having the wrong files on their computer.

Sometimes that's done for laudable reasons. But it can also be done to maintain control of the populace for nefarious reasons. I don't trust the State. No one should.
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The biggest thing to distrust about the feds taking control id their ability to shut down the internet and all other normal means of communication. When they declare martial law the only means of communication they can't control is mobile ham stations. The shutdown has been tested and tweaked under Obummer's watch and is ready to be implemented. Sadly, 60% of the populace will willingly comply and act like the sheeple they are. These gun files will always exist but with a shutdown of the internet and a list of all who downloaded them it won't take long to seize the computers of those who have the file. Thumb drives will be the only way to distribute such info.
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Do you really beleive our government is planning a coup and taking over the American people?
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Have you ever wondered what rule by decree looks like?

The First Amendment. Nothing

The Second Amendment. Nothing

Law is what some bureaucrat or political flunkey says it is.

We didn't lose our freedom.
We flushed it.
Why does the founder of Defense Distributed say the company has to comply with the State Department's "request"? Request or order?
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Do you really beleive our government is planning a coup and taking over the American people?
They have put a lot of effort into training for it if they don't plan to. They have the plans already drawn up and have tweaked them to be totally intimidating to most folks. Shutting down communication and moving fast are key to them doing it before most realize it is happening.
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Quick! Throw this bag in the river! Wait, where did the f*cking cat go? Who lost track of the cat?
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Do you really beleive our government is planning a coup and taking over the American people?
Because that's never ever happened, right? I mean, governments NEVER do anything like that. Dictatorships have never and still do not exist!
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Do you really beleive our government is planning a coup and taking over the American people?
The government doesn't need a coup. They just need to increase their power incrementally. You already live under restrictions that would have stunned your great grandparents.

And this is not anything exceptional. This is the nature of any government, something so hard to get Statists to recognize. The very best governments just want a little more power. Yesterday, today and tomorrow.
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