Weather Channel Founder: Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

cnredd · #1 (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 03:36 AM

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It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create an allusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the “research” to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.

Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild “scientific” scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmentally conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minute documentary segment.

I do not oppose environmentalism. I do not oppose the political positions of either party. However, Global Warming, i.e. Climate Change, is not about environmentalism or politics. It is not a religion. It is not something you “believe in.” It is science; the science of meteorology. This is my field of life-long expertise. And I am telling you Global Warming is a non-event, a manufactured crisis and a total scam. I say this knowing you probably won’t believe a me, a mere TV weatherman, challenging a Nobel Prize, Academy Award and Emmy Award winning former Vice President of United States. So be it.

I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. I am incensed by the incredible media glamour, the politically correct silliness and rude dismissal of counter arguments by the high priest of Global Warming.

In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious. As the temperature rises, polar ice cap melting, coastal flooding and super storm pattern all fail to occur as predicted everyone will come to realize we have been duped. The sky is not falling. And, natural cycles and drifts in climate are as much if not more responsible for any climate changes underway. I strongly believe that the next twenty years are equally as likely to see a cooling trend as they are to see a warming trend.

Somebody's got to get this guy on stage with Al Gore for a one-on-one...

Mikeyy · #2 (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

Weather Channel Founder: Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

Somebody's got to get this guy on stage with Al Gore for a one-on-one...

The guy sounds like an idiot. IMHO. Take him to glacier park. I can't believe this is still a debate. Even if anyone is unclear about the cause of GW. What is happening today isn't happening in geological speed. In terms of natural process GW is happening at mach speed. Is that of less concern to you then who score political points?

cnredd · #3 (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

The guy sounds like an idiot. IMHO. Take him to glacier park. I can't believe this is still a debate. Even if anyone is unclear about the cause of GW. What is happening today isn't happening in geological speed. In terms of natural process GW is happening at mach speed. Is that of less concern to you then who score political points?

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While worrying about Montana's receding glaciers, Schweitzer, who is 50, should also worry about the fact that when he was 20 he was told to be worried, very worried, about global cooling. Science magazine (Dec. 10, 1976) warned of "extensive Northern Hemisphere glaciation." Science Digest (February 1973) reported that "the world's climatologists are agreed" that we must "prepare for the next ice age." The Christian Science Monitor ("Warning: Earth's Climate is Changing Faster Than Even Experts Expect," Aug. 27, 1974) reported that glaciers "have begun to advance," "growing seasons in England and Scandinavia are getting shorter" and "the North Atlantic is cooling down about as fast as an ocean can cool." Newsweek agreed ("The Cooling World," April 28, 1975) that meteorologists "are almost unanimous" that catastrophic famines might result from the global cooling that the New York Times (Sept. 14, 1975) said "may mark the return to another ice age." The Times (May 21, 1975) also said "a major cooling of the climate is widely considered inevitable" now that it is "well established" that the Northern Hemisphere's climate "has been getting cooler since about 1950."

And 30 years from now e'll get the same reports...again...

highway80west · #4 (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 06:23 PM

Geez. If "Global Warming" is a scam, then can we think that the "Ice Age" was a scam? Or a cooling period?

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cnredd · #5 (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by highway80west

Geez. If "Global Warming" is a scam, then can we think that the "Ice Age" was a scam? Or a cooling period?

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It's NOT the fact that the globe, at the moment, is 'warming"...
THAT is agreed upon...

What's at issue is WHY...

Just as the ice age wasn't cause by humans, the warming of the earth isn't caused by humans...and when the warming stops and the globe starts to cool again, it won't be the humans fault for that either...and then when THAT stops and it starts to warm up again...

...well...you get the idea...

highway80west · #6 (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

It's NOT the fact that the globe, at the moment, is 'warming"...
THAT is agreed upon...

What's at issue is WHY...

Just as the ice age wasn't cause by humans, the warming of the earth isn't caused by humans...and when the warming stops and the globe starts to cool again, it won't be the humans fault for that either...and then when THAT stops and it starts to warm up again...

...well...you get the idea...

Yeah, I do.

cnredd · #7 (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by highway80west

Yeah, I do.

Good...

Then that brickwall won't be used for my noggin'...

Yet...

Mikeyy · #8 (**permalink**) 11-10-2007, 01:19 AM

Maybe you could tell us when was the last time the earth was void of ice?

cnredd · #9 (**permalink**) 11-10-2007, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

Maybe you could tell us when was the last time the earth was void of ice?

No...I'm not in the field...

But a documentary I saw showed that the moon was formed when it collided with Earth (They called it "Earth Mark 1" before the collision...It's "Earth Mark 2" now)...That made Earth a huge fireball with any crust that was left under a sea of lava...The collision destroyed any available atmosphere to immediately alleve the heat, so it took quite a while for the earth to "settle down", recreate an atmosphere, have weather conditions, and start up a cycle that would eventually bring about conditions where ice could form...They think that happened around 4/5 bllion years ago...

Of course, that's just a theory..and I'm going by memory...

tecoyah · #10 (**permalink**) 11-27-2007, 08:41 AM

It is interesting to me, that we seem to be playing in a field of black and white in this debate...when most of the Data is Grey. Its relatively clear that the earth has a cyclical natural change in climate. It is also well understood that part of this natural cycle involves greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. It has now become clear that human activity has increased the gas concentration of known greenhouse elements somewhat dramatically in a time frame and quantity unseen in what records we can access, leading some to postulate there is a link between the climate shift and the increased gas concentrations.

Is that so hard to grasp?

as for the San Diego Weatherman:

He tends to see alot of scams...heh

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"Being a TV weatherman in San Diego is an outrageous scam," says KUSI NEWS' 6, 10 and 11 PM weathercaster. Then he laughs. He knows there is plenty of truth in his joke, but he also knows its a long way from the whole story.

Anyway...Given the choice between using the opinion of this guy:

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John Coleman has been a TV weatherman since he was a freshman in college in 1953 and TV was brand new. He still loves predicting the weather and relating to the television viewers. "I also love working at KUSI NEWS", he adds. "It is a rare thing; a locally owned and managed TV station. And, there are dozens of wonderful people who work here."

John has predicted and shoveled his share of snow. He has been a TV weatherman in Champaign, Peoria and Chicago, Illinois; Omaha, Nebraska, Milwaukee, Wisconsin and New York City. For seven years he was the weatherman on "Good Morning, America" on the ABC Network.

John also cooked up the idea of a cable channel devoted to nothing but weather and spent six years developing "The Weather Channel" on cable. "That's my baby", he says. "The bad guys took it away from me, but they can't steal the fact that it was my idea and I started it and ran it for the first year. I put everything I had into making TWC the success it is."

"As for my "retirement job" at KUSI, it's the most fun I ever had. And the people of San Diego County have been wonderful to me for well over a decade. That's very, very nice. And, that's all I have to say." With that Coleman gets down to work predicting the weather one more time.
John Coleman | KUSI - News, Weather and Sports - San Diego, CA | Weather

Or....these guys:

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The IPCC is a scientific intergovernmental body set up by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) and by the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP). Its constituency is made of :

* The governments: the IPCC is open to all member countries of WMO and UNEP. Governments of participate in plenary Sessions of the IPCC where main decisions about the IPCC workprogramme are taken and reports are accepted, adopted and approved. They also participate the review of IPCC Reports.
* The scientists: hundreds of scientists all over the world contribute to the work of the IPCC as authors, contributors and reviewers.
* The people: as United Nations body, the IPCC work aims at the promotion of the United Nations human development goals
IPCC - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

I think I have to go with the later

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