North Pole May Be Ice-Free for First Time This Summer
You can make fun of Al Gore all you want. Something is happening to our planet. Whether it's man made or not, I have a feeling we're not ready for what's coming.

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I totally agree with you. But then again, it may be all the "world is gonna end" type shows that I watch.

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Even if you hold the minority opinion, stick to your guns and go against the flow if that's what you truly believe. (CnRedd)

I can promise you that at the end of the summer there will be no retraction of this silly idea and it'll be back next year too. Now take a moment to look at their "chart" and you will see that the headline doesn't even match with the facts cause the melt lines are actually "below" the average melt line.

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"Most people can't think, most of the remainder won't think, the small fraction who do think mostly can't do it very well. The extremely tiny fraction who think regularly, accurately, creatively and without self delusion---In the long run these are the only people that count."Robert Heinlein

Here's the data to September 2007:

Sea Ice Remote Sensing - AMSR-E Sea Ice Concentration

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Some people are blind saltwn. They want what they think. You show them the truth and they are so blind they see something else.

And before this ____ answers me let it be known I don't bother with the blind. Let them get a dog.

But what is it that's coming? From the only real experience we've had with a period of extended warming (Medieval Optimum), GW looks like a good thing. There were no massively elevated sea levels, no global famine. In fact, for everywhere except Cent. America and the American SW, food supplies skyrocketed due to longer growing seasons. What we should be doing is finding the best ways to exploit this and provide people who need it with more food. But, that kind of approach doesn't keep the cash pipeline flowing for the scientists, so you'll never hear about it. What you will hear, however, is an unending spewing of doom and gloom. If GW is really happening, it will be one the biggest benefits to mankind that we've ever seen. Longer growing seasons, opening of new and more efficient seaways, lowered heating costs, increased food supplies, etc. So why aren't we hearing about this? Because it doesn't pay the big bucks to tell people that good times are coming. What pays the big bucks are prognostications of destruction.

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

Rather than getting our news about the imaginary climate change crisis from the authoritarian propagandists who run the mainstream media, we would be well advised to turn to sources more grounded in reality. South Africa's Engineering News, for example:

This is a shame, because warming periods in the past were unsurprisingly associated with economic expansion. Humans are like most other life forms in that we fare better in a warmer world.

Nonetheless, South Africa prepares to drink the Kool-Aid by imposing a tax that will mean a 10% increase in electricity costs. This will kill two birds with one stone, enriching the bureaucracy, while keeping people poor enough to think they need the very government that is holding them down. But it will have no effect whatsoever on the climate.

Before you guys jump on the "it's propaganda" wagon, let me call your attention to the fact the article is from National Geographic. Now add that to your list of doom and gloom sources.
It's a scientific article. It doesn't promote any agenda. It's a here's-the-info-do-what-you-will-with-it type piece.

Maybe as some here suggested, it is a good thing. Maybe not. These people give us the tools to figure out what if anything is to be done.


The statement about "something happening here" was mine.
Carry on.

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Your joking right. I can use google earth and see for myself. And the source you bring up isn't without bias. S. Africa wants and needs help. They don't care squat about the ice caps!
What about the different documentaries I have seen, aren't they any good!

Man we get winners and losers.

Nat'l Geographic has always been on the "doom and gloom" bandwagon. They are a media outlet at their core and they depend on $ from subscriptions, grant $ and donations. All of which are enhanced by the "doom and gloom" propoganda.

Based on the historical evidence (specifically the Medeival Optimum), GW should be an overall positive. So why don't we hear about this??? If GW is coming, we should be preparing to take full advantage of it. If it's going to be a good thing, why should we stop it?? Rising sea levels??? Utter horsecrap!! Again, back to the MO, there are excellent records of sea levels available and they don't show rising sea levels. Had they risen to the levels the the GWers claim will happen, Venice would have never been built and the Dutch would have lived under water. There is rock solid evidence that shows that sea levels simply won't rise to anything near the levels that the GWers claim will happen. If they lied to you about that, what else are they lieing about? Is their computer model good? Nope. In the early '90s, it was shown to be overstating the effect of the solar sunspot cycle. This overstatement was supposedly corrected and yet afterwards the predictions got worse. They took a HUGE amount of energy out of the equation and got more energy out of it. Then there's the whole CO2 pile of BS. CO2 comprises .033% of our atmosphere and as a greenhouse gas it's effect is almost completely overshadowed by the effect of water vapor in the atmosphere. Yet, it's being demonized as the primary culprit in the greenhouse effect. Ice core samples show that CO2 levels rise AFTER increases in temperature, not before. Yet the GWers still blame CO2.

Holes, holes and more holes.

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."