Uneducated....

Study the results of the only historically recorded warming event during mankinds recorded history - the Medieval Optimum. Temps rose and th eonly truly negative results were droughts in Cent. America and the southern part of N. America. No drastic rising of sea levels, in spite of a huge amount of glacia melting, lots of food being produced, lots of good. Our agriculural technology is vastly better than it was then and even vastly better than it was in the 1930's. The Dust Bowl phenomenon is 100% preventable. We can irrigate better and use agriculural techniques that can handle this kind of situation far better than the farmers in the '30s could. The increased number and severity of wildfires/forest fires are caused by idiots stopping professionals from managing our forests. Fresh water is not any more scarse today than it ever has been and in fact thanks to programs like Christian outreaches into Sub-Saharan Africa that are focused on clean water and well digging efforts, there is more and cleaner water available. Projects like Operation Horn of Africa are also making a huge dent in the fresh water supply.

I haven't heard any reports of tornados in NYC or the Twin Cities, so I don't know where you're getting your lies from. I don't know how we can possibly cause volcanos to erupt so I don't where you're getting that lie from. Pretty much your entire post was a stellar example of ignorance at work in a small and evidently uneducated mind.

Now, get it over with and call me a racist again.

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Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

Study history!! During the Medieval Optimum, sea levels DID NOT RISE. In spite of massive glacial melting, the sea levels didn't rise. Had they risen, Venice and the Netherlands/Holland would have never been able to survive, much less go through the incredible growth that they enjoyed at that time. It's a basic, simple historical fact. What you're hearing is the propoganda being spouted from people making beaucoup bucks by the spouting of this stuff. Just look at Al Gore, for crying out loud. He created a psuedo-disaster and is now making millions from it. Think that there just might be a small problem here????

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God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

I got to unsubscribe from this thread. I only posted to get one in between faithful_servant.

No offense, but I remember this one...
Tornado, storm slam New York - USATODAY.com

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[quote=faithful_servant;33939]Uneducated....

Study the results of the only historically recorded warming event during mankinds recorded history - the Medieval Optimum. Temps rose and th eonly truly negative results were droughts in Cent. America and the southern part of N. America. No drastic rising of sea levels, in spite of a huge amount of glacia melting, lots of food being produced, lots of good. Our agriculural technology is vastly better than it was then and even vastly better than it was in the 1930's. The Dust Bowl phenomenon is 100% preventable. We can irrigate better and use agriculural techniques that can handle this kind of situation far better than the farmers in the '30s could. The increased number and severity of wildfires/forest fires are caused by idiots stopping professionals from managing our forests. Fresh water is not any more scarse today than it ever has been and in fact thanks to programs like Christian outreaches into Sub-Saharan Africa that are focused on clean water and well digging efforts, there is more and cleaner water available. Projects like Operation Horn of Africa are also making a huge dent in the fresh water supply.

I haven't heard any reports of tornados in NYC or the Twin Cities, so I don't know where you're getting your lies from. I don't know how we can possibly cause volcanos to erupt so I don't where you're getting that lie from. Pretty much your entire post was a stellar example of ignorance at work in a small and evidently uneducated mind.

Did I call you a racist? You must have said something that indicated that you were, as I'm not mental. As for your assertions of "uneducated"...I was in the top 5 % of my high school graduating class (of 2500) and was enrolled in the science majors courses for pre-med at U of H. Hardly "uneducated".

In response to your call for "evidence" that tornadoes are in store for the Northeast, and increased vulcanism is the future of the West Coast....

Gaia theory (science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
Gaia hypothesis in ecology

After much criticism, a modified Gaia hypothesis is now considered within ecological science basically consistent with the planet Earth being the ultimate object of ecological study. Ecologists generally consider the biosphere as an ecosystem and the Gaia hypothesis, though a simplification of that original proposed, to be consistent with a modern vision of global ecology, relaying the concepts of biosphere and biodiversity. The Gaia hypothesis has been called geophysiology or Earth System Science, which takes into account the interactions between biota, the oceans, the geosphere, and the atmosphere. To promote research and discussion in these fields an organisation, "Gaia Society for Research and Education in Earth System Science" was started.

An example of the change in acceptability of Gaia theories is the Amsterdam declaration of the scientific communities of four international global change research programmes - the International Geosphere-Biosphere Programme (IGBP), the International Human Dimensions Programme on Global Environmental Change (IHDP), the World Climate Research Programme (WCRP) and the international biodiversity programme DIVERSITAS - recognise that, in addition to the threat of significant climate change, there is growing concern over the ever-increasing human modification of other aspects of the global environment and the consequent implications for human well-being.

They state

"Research carried out over the past decade under the auspices of the four programmes to address these concerns has shown that:

1. The Earth System behaves as a single, self-regulating system comprised of physical, chemical, biological and human components. The interactions and feedbacks between the component parts are complex and exhibit multi-scale temporal and spatial variability. The understanding of the natural dynamics of the Earth System has advanced greatly in recent years and provides a sound basis for evaluating the effects and consequences of human-driven change.
2. Human activities are significantly influencing Earth's environment in many ways in addition to greenhouse gas emissions and climate change. Anthropogenic changes to Earth's land surface, oceans, coasts and atmosphere and to biological diversity, the water cycle and biogeochemical cycles are clearly identifiable beyond natural variability. They are equal to some of the great forces of nature in their extent and impact. Many are accelerating. Global change is real and is happening now.
3. Global change cannot be understood in terms of a simple cause-effect paradigm. Human-driven changes cause multiple effects that cascade through the Earth System in complex ways. These effects interact with each other and with local- and regional-scale changes in multidimensional patterns that are difficult to understand and even more difficult to predict.
4. Earth System dynamics are characterised by critical thresholds and abrupt changes. Human activities could inadvertently trigger such changes with severe consequences for Earth's environment and inhabitants. The Earth System has operated in different states over the last half million years, with abrupt transitions (a decade or less) sometimes occurring between them. Human activities have the potential to switch the Earth System to alternative modes of operation that may prove irreversible and less hospitable to humans and other life. The probability of a human-driven abrupt change in Earth's environment has yet to be quantified but is not negligible.
5. In terms of some key environmental parameters, the Earth System has moved well outside the range of the natural variability exhibited over the last half million years at least. The nature of changes now occurring simultaneously in the Earth System, their magnitudes and rates of change are unprecedented. The Earth is currently operating in a no-analogue state."

Sir Crispin Tickell in the 46th Annual Bennett Lecture for the 50th Anniversary of Geology at the University of Leicester in his recent talk "Earth Systems Science: Are We Pushing Gaia Too Hard?" stated "as a theory, Gaia is now winning." [2]

He continued "The same goes for the earth systems science which is now the concern of the Geological Society of London (with which the Gaia Society recently merged). Whatever the label, earth systems science, or Gaia, has now become a major subject of inquiry and research, and no longer has to justify itself."

These findings would seem to be fully in accord with the Gaia theory. Despite this endorsement, the late Bill Hamilton, one of the founders of modern Darwinism, whilst conceding the empirical basis of the planetary homeostatic processes on which Gaia is based, states that it is a theory still awaiting its Copernicus

Update!...

Not only did the prediction NOT happen...or even come CLOSE to not happening...but new data shows that the ice INCREASED by over 20% in the last year!...

Al Gore is cursing under his breath right now..."How DARE Mother Nature contradict me!"...

Arctic sea ice now 28.7% higher than this date last year - still rallying

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This year is consistant with less multi year layers of ice and more first year ice which is more prone to meltingArctic Sea Ice News & Analysis, though.
Jury is still out.
Are we heating up; are we entering an ice age?

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So if the air is warmer doesn't it hold more water.....and when the ice in your glass melts does it overflow?

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Don't know and Yes.

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The correct answers are YES and NO.


Oh yea now that summer is over and their prediction has been PROVEN not just wrong but EXACTLY backwards to reality have they changed their "theory" to match the facts?

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