And you faithful_servant are a ____. Thats a blank! Your going on the ignore list, where you share great company. You haven't said a thing except opinions, your not worth sharing the space with!

Uh...people like me and a few thousand other queer types love love love National Geographic and History Magazine and articles in the encyclopedia. But we're not forking over big bucks to some global warming conspiracy group, I assure you. Have you ever tried to sell National Geographic? The reactions are like "snore...zzz..huh?" I was tickled pink when they had the fire (not about the fire) up at Little Big Horn and got to reconstruct the battle of Custer's last stand. 100's of college students cataloged and mapped the artifacts of war and it was put into a computer ...
and when the tourists found those Mexican Pyramids. And when the pyramids were being excavated...and when the Titanic was found...
I don't see a global warming conspiracy that would involve money. There may be a conspiracy theory about global warming, but researchers in the arctic and antarctic would have to really want to be in that field is what I'm thinking.
National Geographic subscribers-big bucks-HAH!

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I fyou think that all of those research projects are being carried out by volunteers, you're nuts. There are a lot of volunteers, but there are also a lot of paid staff as well and that kind of outlay does not come from selling subscriptions, it comes from donations and grants.

As for the the money involved in GW. Consider that the vast majority of the researchers are working in state of the art labs, using state of the art equipment. The small percentage working in the field are those who love field work. Almost all of these people have something in common: Without GW, they don't have these kind of high profile, high dollar jobs. What they have instead is teaching positions at Jr. Colleges (possibly even Jr. High). Also, think about this - GWs high priest, Al Gore is making milllions of dollars off GW. Not with speaking fees, but with his self-created carbon-offsets business. Do you see a possible financial motivation to skew the truth?? Do you see evidence of this happening? How about the idea of reporting that there's a coming disaster, when the historical evidence is clearly contrary to that prediction? Good news doesn't draw in near the $ that supposedly preventing a disaster does. If the whole truth was being told, we'd be making plans for a drought in Cent. America and the American SW, while setting in place plans to increase harvests and distribute that harvest as growing seasons increase and heretofore unarable land becomes arable. But we're not doing this are we??

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

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Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

Darn it the ignore lists works great... bye bye.

I love it when I get ignored. It means that I can poke at the person all I want and they never respond to it. mlurp, I heard that you wear women's underwear, is this true???

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God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

Lets switch to the South Pole and you can form at the mouth faithful_servant.
Use google earth to see reality. As your opinions aren't worth the time to read them. You can google, google earth... lol
Or you can check the pixes I posted on this shelve. It would require you searching back in this topic. I doubt you will bother as that is like work and opinions are easier.

Antarctic ice shelf 'hanging by thread': European scientists Thu Jul 10, 1:57 PM ET

Antarctic ice shelf 'hanging by thread': European scientists - Yahoo! News

PARIS (AFP) - New evidence has emerged that a large plate of floating ice shelf attached to Antarctica is breaking up, in a troubling sign of global warming, the European Space Agency (ESA) said on Thursday.


Images taken by its Envisat remote-sensing satellite show that Wilkins Ice Shelf is "hanging by its last thread" to Charcot Island, one of the plate's key anchors to the Antarctic peninsula, ESA said in a press release.

"Since the connection to the island... helps stabilise the ice shelf, it is likely the breakup of the bridge will put the remainder of the ice shelf at risk," it said.

Wilkins Ice Shelf had been stable for most of the last century, covering around 16,000 square kilometres (6,000 square miles), or about the size of Northern Ireland, before it began to retreat in the 1990s.

Since then several large areas have broken away, and two big breakoffs this year left only a narrow ice bridge about 2.7 kilometres (1.7 miles) wide to connect the shelf to Charcot and nearby Latady Island.

This isn't getting us anywhere. You think the whole thing's a cash cow conspiracy. I think there may be something to these reports (and personal observations) that things are changing climate wise. I personally think it might have more to do with deforestation and water pollution than CO2 (just my hunch). But there's a change taking place. And no not everyone wants the type of climate Florida has.

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Plus, if Canada is like Florida, Florida is gonna be like the Sahara.

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Deforestation??? Wait a minute... The most powerful greenhouse gas there is is water vapor. Deforestation would DECREASE the amount of water vapor, not increase it, negating the greenhouse effect. Water pollution?? Just what exactly is it about water pollution that contributes to the greenhouse effect?? Fewer plants? Nope sorry. Fewer animals?? About the only thing that animals do that impacts greenhouse gases is help plants grow by natural pruning and produce gas. Less animals would reduce these. Ya gotta stop and think about this stuff.

If you truly think that deforestation is a problem, would you support measures that take away the financial incentive to use destructive forestry practices??? My guess is that you would. Right now, the best thing we could possibly do to impact this is allow professional foresters to manage our forests instead of activist judges. If we went back to harvest levels that were in place 30 years ago, we'd see American/Canadian produced timber flooding the int'l market. We use incredibly good logging practices because our timber cos. take a long view of the forest. More 3rd world countries (who are leading the way in deforestation) have forestry practices that are horrific to sya the least. We could put them out of business in a matter of years by making destroying great stands of timber unprofitable for them. Look at when the 3rd world countries really started in on the massive deforestation. It was right about the time the eco-nuts started suing to stop every timber sale they possibly could. Our timber cos. use forestry practises that are hands-down, far and away better than anyone else - when they have the available timber to use the best practices. Take away the number of sales and you force the timber cos. to use poorer practices in order to stay in business. Increase the number of sales and you allow for much better forestry practices. Take a look at the prevalence of forest fires over the last decade. In the past, our forest were harvested into a healthy patchwork of mixed age stands, which were kept healthy with intelligent thinning and harvest. Now, they're overgrown, disease ridden expanses of dead and dieing trees. Prime for destructive fires that provide no finacial benefit, no environmental benefit that intelligent harvesting techniques can't easily replace and they cost this country BILLIONS of dollars. If you want a huge source of CO2, take look at an unhelathy stand of timber. It's a potential fire hazard, producing CO2 like nobodies business and the rotting wood on teh ground is just as bad, just spread out over years instead of days. If you want to truly stop the production of a whole lot of CO2, support professional foresters instead of idiotic eco-nuts. Get our forests healthy and consuming CO2, instead of sick and producing CO2. Create tens of thousands of new jobs. Improve our ability to fight fires. Here's a freebie for you: Did you know that every federal timber sale has a clause in the contract that states that if a fire breaks out, the Feds can basically draft your crew to fight the fire??? When the forests were actively being managed, this meant that there were pros immeadiately available with great equipment and expertise to stop the fire. These guys ate fires for lunch. They also built great road systems that allowed for the fire crews to get to the fires MUCH faster than they do now. Now, there are few of these crews around and the fires get BIG, really fast, due in large part because of the delay in bringing pros to the job and knocking the fire down before it gets out of control.

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

Salty you can't explain to some people, why waste your time. I don't. But you do what works for you dear.

I am tired of these clowns and the B.S., they give out. No data just stupid opinions in the face of true data. So I'm coming out of the closet and slamming stupidity where I find it.
Like the Nam and Iraq (any war) being stupid gets people dead! I hate stupid people, my one vise! Jesus will forgive me in the end might even give me a medal. lol.