Global Warming: Solved

Michael1 · #1 (**permalink**) 06-05-2008, 02:33 PM

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Sheep flatulence inoculation developed
By Peter Allen in Paris
Last updated: 3:38 PM BST 05/06/2008
New Zealand scientists claim to have developed a "flatulence inoculation" aimed at cutting down on the massive amount of methane produced by its sheep and cows.
Such animals are believed to be responsible for more than half of the country's greenhouse gases, causing huge environmental problems.

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But Phil Goff, New Zealand's trade minister, told an Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD) in Paris yesterday that a solution was in sight.

"Our agricultural research organisation just last week was able to map the genome ... that causes methane in ruminant animals and we believe we can vaccinate against" flatulent emissions, Mr Goff said.

Scientists in New Zealand have been working around-the-clock to reduce emissions from agriculture, such as changing the way fertilisers are used on pasture land, Mr Goff added.

Sheep, cattle, goats and deer produce large quantities of gas through belching and flatulence, as their multiple stomachs digest grass.

Ruminants are responsible for about 25 per cent of the methane produced in Britain, but in countries with a large agricultural sector, the proportion is much higher.

The 45 million sheep and 10 million cattle in New Zealand burped and farted about 90 percent of that country's methane emissions, according to government figures.

In comparison, livestock are responsible for about two per cent of the United States's greenhouse gas emissions, according to the US Environmental Protection Agency.

Under the Kyoto Protocol to combat global warming, New Zealand must reduce its greenhouse gas emissions to 5.2 percent below 1990 levels by 2012.

In the past New Zealand's farmers have showed their disgust at government plans to impose an animal "flatulence tax" by sending parcels of manure to members of parliament.

The OECD conference is discussing climate change, trade and the global economy.

... er well, at least one tax scheme defeated. If environmental wackos had their way, we would have had to pay a fart tax for livestock, and who knows, maybe the family dog. Nice to see we can innoculate Rover if it ever comes to that.

mlurp · #2 (**permalink**) 06-06-2008, 01:07 PM

Nice piece Michael1 and love the comment.
Hummmm some stats.

$45 trillion needed to combat warming By JOSEPH COLEMAN, Associated Press Writer
Fri Jun 6, 7:06 AM ET

$45 trillion needed to combat warming - Yahoo! News

TOKYO - The world needs to invest $45 trillion in energy in coming decades, build some 1,400 nuclear power plants and vastly expand wind power in order to halve greenhouse gas emissions by 2050, according to an energy study released Friday.

The report by the Paris-based International Energy Agency envisions a "energy revolution" that would greatly reduce the world's dependence on fossil fuels while maintaining steady economic growth.

"Meeting this target of 50 percent cut in emissions represents a formidable challenge, and we would require immediate policy action and technological transition on an unprecedented scale," IEA Executive Director Nobuo Tanaka said.

A U.N.-network of scientists concluded last year that emissions have to be cut by at least half by 2050 to avoid an increase in world temperatures of between 3.6 and 4.2 degrees above pre-18th century levels.

cnredd · #3 (**permalink**) 06-06-2008, 01:52 PM

In other news, Al Gore wants 80 gazillion dollars to create an 18,000 mile long awning for shade...

saltwn · #4 (**permalink**) 06-06-2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael1

Sheep flatulence inoculation developed ... er well, at least one tax scheme defeated. If environmental wackos had their way, we would have had to pay a fart tax for livestock, and who knows, maybe the family dog. Nice to see we can innoculate Rover if it ever comes to that.

Well all (almost all) kidding aside, I could do without beef for the rest of my life if they could make Nebraska and Iowa smell like something other than...

Michael1 · #5 (**permalink**) 06-06-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mlurp

Nice piece Michael1 and love the comment.
Hummmm some stats.

$45 trillion needed to combat warming By JOSEPH COLEMAN, Associated Press Writer A U.N.-network of scientists concluded last year that emissions have to be cut by at least half by 2050 to avoid an increase in world temperatures of between 3.6 and 4.2 degrees above pre-18th century levels.

Great show of how much we need to contribute.

Have you any reason to NOT believe it is bogus?

If you're pre-conditioned to swallow, you swallow. While that doesn't make you more of a whore than the whore that didn't swallow, you're still a whore, and you're still swallowing.

You can believe this $45trillion dollar figure all you want, but the reality is that it is just hyperbole. Inevitabely some global warming jackass will come along and post some ignorant claim. It's what your type does.

mlurp · #6 (**permalink**) 06-07-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

Well all (almost all) kidding aside, I could do without beef for the rest of my life if they could make Nebraska and Iowa smell like something other than...

Not me. Then I would have to hunt vegetarians..

mlurp · #7 (**permalink**) 06-07-2008, 12:31 PM

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Great show of how much we need to contribute.

Have you any reason to NOT believe it is bogus?

If you're pre-conditioned to swallow, you swallow. While that doesn't make you more of a whore than the whore that didn't swallow, you're still a whore, and you're still swallowing.

You can believe this $45trillion dollar figure all you want, but the reality is that it is just hyperbole. Inevitabely some global warming jackass will come along and post some ignorant claim. It's what your type does.

No I am not pre conditioned to anything but making up my own mind. I might have some knowledge you haven't. Keep an eye on the History Channel. I posted right after I saw it. They did a complete study of Alaska. No ice caps north or south. None of Al Gores crap. But what I saw convinced me something is happening. And I don't care who or why it is happening! In the first time the people of the world can do something to change what is happening before it gets to bad.
But all I did was to post a recent report taking no sides, in fact giving you some credit.
So why are you pre conditioned to think nothing is happening? And now Michael1 you have insluted me with that "your type" So your right and all others are of that type. I have tried to be friendly but your an know it all ash.

Michael1 · #8 (**permalink**) 06-07-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mlurp

But all I did was to post a recent report taking no sides, in fact giving you some credit.
So why are you pre conditioned to think nothing is happening? And now Michael1 you have insluted me with that "your type" So your right and all others are of that type. I have tried to be friendly but your an know it all ash.

I want to publically apologize. I got out of hand and over the top there. For that, I'm sorry and I'm sorry I insulted you.

I'm not beyond admitting when I post a little tipsy. Please accept my sincerest apologies.

To the topic, I simply cannot take $45 trillion at face value. To me, it's just an imagined number someone threw out there. For the record, I'm not entirely sure nothing is happening, but won't agree that it's entirely man-made, and certainly see the economic folly in usurping $45 trillion from the world to combat it, when there's no reason to believe everyone would play the game or even that it would be an effective use of the money.

saltwn · #9 (**permalink**) 06-07-2008, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael1

I want to publically apologize. I got out of hand and over the top there. For that, I'm sorry and I'm sorry I insulted you.

I'm not beyond admitting when I post a little tipsy. Please accept my sincerest apologies.

To the topic, I simply cannot take $45 trillion at face value. To me, it's just an imagined number someone threw out there. For the record, I'm not entirely sure nothing is happening, but won't agree that it's entirely man-made, and certainly see the economic folly in usurping $45 trillion from the world to combat it, when there's no reason to believe everyone would play the game or even that it would be an effective use of the money.

Why don't more influencial people of the world just draw up guidelines and sell their plan to the American people and to congress?
One that would help us quit polluting and be more energy efficient than we are.
Americans became aware of littering when one woman Mrs. LBJ took that as her cause.
Instead of getting caught up in the rhetoric of war politics some of our popular citizens could use that popularity to call attention to the need to clean up the world. And raise enormous catches of private funds for energy research in the form of additional or extension grants to help solve fuel problems.

Michael1 · #10 (**permalink**) 06-07-2008, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

Why don't more influencial people of the world just draw up guidelines and sell their plan to the American people and to congress?
One that would help us quit polluting and be more energy efficient than we are.

They did. It's the ill-fated Kyoto plan. Unfortunately that idea is completely pointless. Schemes like that just redistribute wealth and don't reduce global carbon emissions.

It's similar to the notion that the US can reduce oil consumption and that will make a difference globally. So many rapidly growing nations subsidize oil and hence are increasing their usage that any US conservation can never change reduce the price of oil or amount of oil related carbon emissions.

We need to build nuclear plants all over this country and begin the conversion to electric based transportation. It's our only hope.

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