This should put an end to the folly of global warming.

Global Warming: A closer look at the numbers

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"For my own part, I sincerely esteem it a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests".
Alexander Hamilton, 1787 (After the Constitutional Convention)

"An abortion kills the life of a baby after it has begun. It is dangerous to your life and health".
Planned Parenthood, 1963

Key word is "should"...

Unfortunately, it won't...

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"You get the respect that you give" - cnredd

I believe that man made global warming is a scam in order to con money out of people.

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"There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language… and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”—Theodore Roosevelt

People are getting things mixed up. It's climate change, this includes freak and extreme weather conditions. Snow in Tucson, record breaking temperatures by 10 degrees in Montana during July, 109, also spring basically started here in February when it shouldn't start until April, hurricanes, snow in Jerusalem, etc. Also, it doesn't matter if you believe in global warming/climate change, this is a pointless debate, because we must do all in our power to protect, preserve, and conserve our extremely fragile planet, no matter what. Let's stop bickering about this subject and just promote the well being of the planet we all call home.

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I pledge allegience to the Earth as one.

Your right that this has become an us and them issue down party lines like most stuff. Its funny that the right first denied GW existed. Now since they were proven wrong about that they choose to deny any responsibility at all. Its funny how they are instant experts on GW now. Josh makes a good point. So let me try and make an argument that the right can understand. If you are a christian it is your responsibility to take care of the planet. According to scripture. The bible doesn't talk about economics vs. conservation. Thats a republican argument. Another argument would be that we should do all we can to leave a better planet to our kids if we have the ability. And finally we are Americans. You know, The can do people. We should be leading the world in new energy efficient technologies. Instead we whine and moan about who's fault everything is. Lets move on to leading the world. If you think GW is a scam. You could be right. But so what? Even if your right there is no down side to creating new jobs. IMHO

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"Most people can't think, most of the remainder won't think, the small fraction who do think mostly can't do it very well. The extremely tiny fraction who think regularly, accurately, creatively and without self delusion---In the long run these are the only people that count."Robert Heinlein

Like I just said. Whats the diff?

The difference is that if we waste a lot of money complying with Kyoto, or other environmental accords, we will be putting an unnecessary damper on our economy. We are on the edge of a possible recession now without any additional downward pressure.

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"For my own part, I sincerely esteem it a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests".
Alexander Hamilton, 1787 (After the Constitutional Convention)

"An abortion kills the life of a baby after it has begun. It is dangerous to your life and health".
Planned Parenthood, 1963

Is complying with Kyoto the only thing that comes to mind for you. How about forget Kyoto. Now that that is off your mind think about the jobs that could be created developing these technoligies. Solar, wind, hydro, geothermal, power is available now. People have good ideas surrounding Tidel and wave energy. Increasing MPG 25% would get us off middle eastern oil completely. Why would any thinking human being be against progress?
BTW China already has higher fuel standards then us.

I know there's a great amount of polution in America. I have seen it in my lifetime. They cleaned up some major cities pretty well. but out where there aren't as many people to complain (or before they get there it's been covered up), there is still a great if not greater amount of polution. I don't know whether this will warm things up, make it windy/rainy as it has some places already (or changed the rain into scum), or if it will make the air colder. But I can see that it will affect climate.
Any activity creats heat. We all learned that in grade school. No doubt there is more activity of every kind right now in the states. And if some other country's laws are worse than America's about polution, then it will affect the earth. No doubt about it.
California all the way to the northern part of the state stinks. Sometimes it smells like fire when there isn't any. Sometimes just sewage. Most of New Jersey and the more populated parts of New York are so poluted I dare not drink the water-don't even like to breath the air.
All of Iowa and Nebraska, parts of Wyoming, Kansas and parts of other states smell like $hit. Feed lots. People with more money than I'll ever see pay big bucks to EPA inspectors and then dump their motor oil and saw dust or what-have-you into live streams. How do I know? I've seen it. There's a stream by a house I used to own in Texas that bubbles like alkaselzer. And that stuff goes on in places you wouldn't suspect.
Will more and more human productivity cause the climate to change? I don't see why it wouldn't. A lot of things affect the weather. Sometimes it rains as a way of cleansing I think. Other times you'll see fruit (that's naturally grown) get thicker skin due to pollutants or unusual cold weather a couple of years in a row.
Instead of trying to disprove global warming, it is my contention, we should be trying to help mother nature by putting those MIT guys to work finding solutions to the polution problems we already have in this country. This country which used to be beautiful and now in some places looks more and more like a cesspool.
How many more housing subdivisions are we going to allow people to put up?
Septic tanks, dog $hit, car smoke, ear polution from the building going up, tapping another hole in an already over extended aquifer, new and improved garbage dumps, oil, fireplace smoke, cutting some more trees for some more telephone poles or digging up the land to bury cable, loss of habitat for ground animals and birds, rerouting the watering holes that deer and other creatures use seasonaly to survive because you want to fill in that swamp land so you can sell it to the highest bidder....
Hell, instead of harping about some guys' ideas about global warming, we better start protecting the land itself.
They don't make it any more.

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