Mikeyy, I think you misunderstood my post. Please try to understand that I don't think he is the messiah or even close to it, nor is he the next best thing to sliced bread. Obama is a politician just like all the others, but in this case he has a vague message of change that many are consumed with like wildfire. When legitimate issues concerning his character are raised, his supporters have a tendency to turn the blind eye to the facts and protect his image at all costs. Oprah does what she does for ratings, and everyone needs a hero.

And yes, many follow him like they would a messiah. Start passing around the kool-aid and read all about it:
http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/opi...ned-being.html

I voiced my opinion, now will I get flamed? Will I be accused of smearing his good name? I doubt it, and that is one of the MAIN differences between both forums.

If those that set the rules break the same rules that they set, then it's not really a forum I would consider balanced or fair. If those that enforce the rules are biased when enforcing those rules, that is also not fair. If that's the case, I'd much rather not play. I'd rather get banned on my feet than have to post on my knees.

I agree 100%

I agree that it is difficult to question Obama without being flamed by his supporters. Its real silly. I am supporting Obama. Not because of any major issue. Not because I dislike McCain. I don't dislike McCain. I used to get mad because I would ask "What do you see in Obama?" And nobody could give me a substantive answer. I still get that. I only get angered when people attack Obama or any candidate with innuendo or phony stuff like "He is a Muslim" Or those type of fear posts that seem to only find a base in peoples fears. I don't like his approach to the cost of education. He proposes larger tax breaks for education. I think using the tax code is a phony political tactic used by pols that don't want to stick their necks out. Now that is a real issue to discuss.

Very well put. But I hope that isn't suggestion I am on my knees there. loool

I respect your wishes AD.

I'm going to vote for Obama only because there isn't another choice that offers any change. I was a Republician once mostly a Dem and now an Non affiliated Independent. And in KS. that means no votes allowed for any GOP member, which suits me. Their rules and they twist them to suit themselfs AD like a lot of rule makers.

I am listening to everything you are saying here, and at face value you are somewhat making my point. Your post states that you "support Obama", yet you do not give one reason why you support him. You have only given one reason why you do not support him. There are MANY political tactics that he has used in the course of his candidacy, and fortunately I owe it to myself to question his caharacter. Maybe this topic is better left for an appropriate thread.

Great sense of humor...you are kidding I hope. I think you know be by now. I shoot from the hip and call it like I see it. I think we have some common ideals and our own individual ways of expressing them. You have always been a stand up poster as long as I have known you.

I hear you. I just want to make sure that no stone is left unturned. I owe it to myself to put him through the wringer, and maybe I can help some wake up to the possibility that he is just another politician with the gift of gab. And yes, rules are broken every day, but if there is a sign up that displays the rules it is frustrating when those that put up the signs break those very rules. Such is life.

You have my support AD and yes I knew the answer myself but wanted it cleared up so others not aware of the daily crap on PF would know.
Heck I just got in on that Arab jabooro or what ever about some rabbi and a statement. Then left. Who knows when I go back there might be another medal ( infraction ) for me..... lol But I do try to stay out of the debates with theses clowns and the socialists as you know.
I prefer to find a subject and clear their posts from front and center.

As for Obama if something comes up it doesn't matter. He has to win or we face the same danger and crap we have for the last 7+ years.

No I don't mind discussing it. I have to choose between McCain and Obama. I don't spend much time reading the detractors of these two guys. They have their own agenda. I am doing this the way I always do. Gut check. I like both candidates to some degree. And maybe the way I have come to a conclusion won't make a lot of sense to you. I like John McCain. When he makes cheap attacks on Obama I am disappointed in him. He is better then that. But that is my problem with McCain. One minute he praises someone on the left. The next he is spewing right wing talking points. He has given some good bipartisan assessments.
Part of the reason for going with Obama is he hasn't been going negative. And I am sick of people going negative. Or misrepresenting others positions. Which is another thing McCain has been doing lately that pushed me to the other camp. It may be good politics. But it turns me right off.
If you have a good plan then tell us your plan so I can make my dicission. But if all you do is tell me that your opponent is young and inexperienced. You haven't done anything but piss me off. These two need to run on their own plans and policies by us. And then we get to decide. If I want to know Obama's plans I'm not going to ask McCain. He has a vested interest in running Obama's plans down.