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Originally Posted by Mikeyy
I agree. The early batman movies seemed to be based in the TV show. I liked Batman Begins. 
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I didn't even watch Batman Begins until a week ago, because I was a 'comic book geek' in the 80's and while I was happy to see Batman make the big screen back then, was terribly disappointed in the effort. Sure, Nicholson's Joker was alright, but the guy playing Batman (Keaton, right?) sucked. Back in the 80's Frank Miller was already writing a darker Batman but the movies never did his vision justice.
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Originally Posted by foundit66
The story, in and of itself, is genius (IMO). Truly worthy of a *Batman / Joker* movie.
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... and of course the Joker is the ultimate Batman villian. I'm thinking the franchise is now done because I don't think any actor could possibly make the Joker into a more believable character than Heath Ledger did, and I don't think there is another villian in the Batman lore that could be as diabolical as is the Joker. A third movie in this series might be inevitable, but is bound to disspoint. This is the pinnacle Batman movie, for all times ... IMHO.
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Originally Posted by cnredd
Didn't someone tell me the economy's bad?...
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Redd, this is the summer to be remembered as the one where the term 'staycation' was invented. For my dollar, and many others seemingly, a 2 1/2 hour spectacular on the screen was just the right remedy for not being able to afford to drive 4 hours to sit the family's ass on the beach for a week(end).
If the economy continues to worsen (as I expect it will under Obama and Congress dominated by the left) we might not even be able to take our kids to a matinee (like I did, now BOTH times I've see this awesome film). On the other hand remember that Hollywood had some of it's best moments back when the economy was at it's worst in the late 30's and early 40's. When you can't afford to go somewhere and escape the everyday realities of life you end up at the theater, where even if for only 2 1/2 hours you get to yearn for simpler times.
In this day and age, perhaps Batman's weakness (inability to kill for justice) is a nice lesson in morality. Americans are seen as the vigilante Batman is perceived as, and even allows himself to be portrayed as, for the greater good in the long run.
It's just like in WWII, when Americans bombed Japanese civilians. The idea was to bring about peace at any cost because continuing to fight traditionally would have led to entractable war.
In Batman's case, he could never pull the 'trigger', so to speak. In Truman's case, he made that decision. Truman was forced to decide that more civilian deaths immediately could lead to better days ahead for the survivors, and it seems to have worked out in his favor.
Batman in the end is convinced that more deaths even falsley laid at his hands is better than letting the terrorist (the Joker) get a catastrophic 'win'.
Intense movie. Great job at pulling it off across the board. I'm entertained and I'm even left thinking about it with regards to politics.