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Well, it is now official.

The Cleveland Indians' logo--Chief Wahoo--was retired a full year ago. (And his excessive grin was, indeed, rather silly-appearing.)

But now the team name--the "Indians" was named after a former player, Louis Sockalexis, who was a Penobscot Indian--has given way, after more than a century, to the bland term "Guardians."

In another sport, the Washington Redskins is already a thing of the past. (They just have never received a replacement name.)

Who will be next?

The Atlanta Braves? (They say that they will never change their team name. But time will tell, I suppose.)

The Kansas City Chiefs?

The Chicago Blackhawks?

Thw Golden State Warriors?

Or, perhaps, someone else?
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I live where the 76ers play...I'm guessing they'll be an attempt to change it to "1619ers"...
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they shoulda went with this instead.
something the left can celebrate without being offended.


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oh...and by the way...
what happens to all the cleveland indians apparel stock that wasn't sold?
does it end up in some third world country like super bowl loser apparel?
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Well, it is now official.

The Cleveland Indians' logo--Chief Wahoo--was retired a full year ago. (And his excessive grin was, indeed, rather silly-appearing.)

But now the team name--the "Indians" was named after a former player, Louis Sockalexis, who was a Penobscot Indian--has given way, after more than a century, to the bland term "Guardians."

In another sport, the Washington Redskins is already a thing of the past. (They just have never received a replacement name.)

Who will be next?

The Atlanta Braves? (They say that they will never change their team name. But time will tell, I suppose.)

The Kansas City Chiefs?

The Chicago Blackhawks?

Thw Golden State Warriors?

Or, perhaps, someone else?
I agree; how about we call it the "old white cracker" ?
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I agree; how about we call it the "old white cracker" ?
What does age (as in "old") have to do with it?

Again: The team's name--the Indians--was given in honor of a Penobscot Indian.

But perhaps you would prefer to just ignore that.
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What does age (as in "old") have to do with it?

Again: The team's name--the Indians--was given in honor of a Penobscot Indian.

But perhaps you would prefer to just ignore that.
Not my decision, but since we are commenting on someone else's business name, I thought the old white cracker team was every bit as worthy. But the owners won't listen to either of us. If natives have complained it sounds racist I suppose business leaders will do what they've always done and figure what is the best for them, their bottom line and perhaps humanity.
Of course I kind of feel as if I'm cheating because my college team wasn't affected and will keep its name. The Seminole Indians are actually proud of their association with the football, basketball, etc., at Fla State.

To each his own as they say.
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so on one hand a mascot image is disrespectful but on the other it's a gesture of honor.


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so on one hand a mascot image is disrespectful but on the other it's a gesture of honor.

Perfect mascot for my old white cracker suggestion.
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Perfect mascot for my old white cracker suggestion.
both mascots were removed/replaced.
chief wahoo because it was supposedly disrespectful and did nothing to honor american indians. that disrespect and dishonor is considered racist. therefore it had to be removed.

colonel reb on the other hand apparently wasn't disrespectful. instead, it supposedly honored southern slave ownership and racism with it's caricature mascot. so it had to be removed.

if a caricature mascot is disrespectful for one it only seems logical and consistent that it be disrespectful for the other. and wouldn't that be good to show disrespect and dishonor to southern traitors?

on the other hand, if a caricature mascot shows honor and respect for one it only seems logical and consistent that it would do the same for the other.
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