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Trump, on NFL Ruling, Suggests Kneeling Players “Shouldn’t Be In The Country”
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NFL owners issued a new policy earlier this week, requiring players and team personnel to stand during the National Anthem. This ruling is in response to controversy last season in which some players chose to kneel instead of stand to protest cases of systemic oppression.
According to ESPN, the new policy mandates players ad personnel to stand during the anthem “if they are on the field during the performance,” but allows them “the option to remain in the locker room if they prefer.”
The policy subjects teams to a fine if a player or any other team personnel do not show respect for the anthem. That includes any attempt to sit or kneel, as dozens of players have done during the past two seasons to protest racial inequality and police brutality. Those teams also will have the option to fine any team personnel, including players, for the infraction.

President Trump responded with support for the NFL’s decision to ban kneeling, saying on Fox & Friends that “I don’t think people should be staying in the locker rooms, but still I think it’s good. You have to stand proudly for the national anthem or you shouldn’t be playing, you shouldn’t be there. Maybe you shouldn’t be in the country.”
Trump also said he doesn’t feel responsible for the new NFL policy, noting that he thought it was the American people who pressed the league to make the new rule.
This isn’t the first time Trump has criticized NFL players kneeling during the anthem. In September 2017, Trump asked at a rally in Alabama, “wouldn’t you love to see one of the NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say ‘Get that son of a b—– off the field right now’?”

According to a statement released by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, the league acknowledged that kneeling players have been effective in alerting the public to social issues, noting that “the efforts by many of our players sparked awareness and action around issues of social justice that must be addressed.”
Goodell also stated that “we want people to be respectful of the national anthem…we want people to stand— that’s all personnel— and make sure they treat this moment in a respectful fashion. That’s something we think we owe. But we were also very sensitive to give players choices.”
The vote was unanimous among owners.

Philadelphia Eagles defensive end Chris Long rebuked the new rule, claiming that it was based in fear:
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— Chris Long (@JOEL9ONE) May 23, 2018

New York Jets chairman and CEO Christopher Johnson has reportedly balked at the new policy; according to a report from Newsday, Johnson told the publication that “his players are free to take a knee or perform some other protest without fear of repercussion from the team.”
“If somebody [on the Jets] takes a knee, that fine will be borne by the organization, by me, not the players,” Johnson said. “I never want to put restrictions on the speech of our players. Do I prefer that they stand? Of course. But I understand if they felt the need to protest. There are some big, complicated issues that we’re all struggling with, and our players are on the front lines. I don’t want to come down on them like a ton of bricks, and I won’t. There will be no club fines or suspensions or any sort of repercussions. If the team gets fined, that’s just something I’ll have to bear.”

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if someone could explain to me how the NFL's new rule is much different than forcing someone to bake a cake for a homosexual cake wedding, I'd appreciate it.
In one they get fined the other they may get fined or completely loose their biz, sure,
but BOTH are caused because some group whos' offended that someone else will not "celebrate" a POV in the same way they do.
And in the case of the knelling players it's not even a part of the real work they do.

the offended parties somehow can't see past their own POVs to the freedom and liberty ideals that are supposed 2b to among the bedrock of American life.
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quit playing the national anthem and showing beer commercials around the games. that offends me.
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if someone could explain to me how the NFL's new rule is much different than forcing someone to bake a cake for a homosexual cake wedding, I'd appreciate it.
In one they get fined the other they may get fined or completely loose their biz, sure,
but BOTH are caused because some group whos' offended that someone else will not "celebrate" a POV in the same way they do.
And in the case of the knelling players it's not even a part of the real work they do.

the offended parties somehow can't see past their own POVs to the freedom and liberty ideals that are supposed 2b to among the bedrock of American life.
one is enforced by our government and applies to any business in the united states while the other is enforced by a private entity and only applies to those who are employed by that entity and subject to their rules of conduct. those rules can apply to those participants outside their on the field participation as they represent that private entity on and off the field.
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one is enforced by our government and applies to any business in the united states while the other is enforced by a private entity and only applies to those who are employed by that entity and subject to their rules of conduct. those rules can apply to those participants outside their on the field participation as they represent that private entity on and off the field.
So are you saying that Private entities have legit authority to dictate employees political beliefs and actions while on the job?
If you're are a plumber, the company can compel you to make left-wing or right-wing or patriotic or anti-patriotic statements before every job? at lunch etc.?
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quit playing the national anthem and showing beer commercials around the games. that offends me.
Hit the magic button. The beer commercial or the protest goes away.

I don't turn on sports to watch people protesting, but if the owners have no problem with it, I recognize their right. I just won't participate.
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if someone could explain to me how the NFL's new rule is much different than forcing someone to bake a cake for a homosexual cake wedding, I'd appreciate it.
In one they get fined the other they may get fined or completely loose their biz, sure,
but BOTH are caused because some group whos' offended that someone else will not "celebrate" a POV in the same way they do.
And in the case of the knelling players it's not even a part of the real work they do.

the offended parties somehow can't see past their own POVs to the freedom and liberty ideals that are supposed 2b to among the bedrock of American life.
Seriously?

In the case of the NFL, the employer mandates the actions it's employees during working hours. This happens in most businesses, why should the NFL be any different?

In the case of the baker, the employer has set a principle for which the business operates, just like the NFL. The employees of the bakery will act accordingly. To me, they are one in the same.
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So are you saying that Private entities have legit authority to dictate employees political beliefs and actions while on the job?
If you're are a plumber, the company can compel you to make left-wing or right-wing or patriotic or anti-patriotic statements before every job? at lunch etc.?
dictate political beliefs? no.
compel to certain actions or inaction on the job? yes.
in my current job we are prevented from distributing political or religious materials at work.
pretty much every job i have ever had prevents employees from wearing clothing with vulgar words or expressions on them. even torn or tattered clothing are prohibited.
in the case of the nfl they also have uniform requirements and restrictions that can result in fines if violated.
there’s the whole custom shoe issue that has come up again and again.
the nfl has rules of conduct that can get players fined or suspended for actions off the field/outside of work that no other employer would require. yet, no one seems to have a problem with those restrictions and penalties. in fact, it seems people call for more stringent rules and punishments for personal conduct violations regarding nfl players. yet we now have a problem because the nfl says you either stand for the national anthem or stay in the locker room while it’s played. totally ridiculous. fake outrage.
to equate that sort of employee regulation to dictating beliefs is nothing more than hyperbole.
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Typical dumb-ass Donald.....

Anti- 1st Amendment rights...…

He's such an embarrassing boob......
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So are you saying that Private entities have legit authority to dictate employees political beliefs and actions while on the job?
If you're are a plumber, the company can compel you to make left-wing or right-wing or patriotic or anti-patriotic statements before every job? at lunch etc.?
You are a better poster than this. Giving someone the choice to either stand during the Anthem or stay in the locker room is not dictating anyone's political beliefs, it is simply keeping the appearances of the league favorable to their intended customers. How the players vote or who they campaign for on their own time is exactly that, their own time. Just don't do on the NFL's time. JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER EMPLOYER!
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Since when is a peaceful protest in our great country a guilty verdict for deportation.....??


So f***ing stupid.....
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