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Not one to usually boycott sh*t but I'll def pass on First Man since they wanna play their liberal games and view the American flag like something bad.

Fuq them. The moment Neil Armstrong planted the American flag on the moon is one of the most iconic moments in American history. But Hollywood wants to go all Colin Kaepernick and protest our nation's flag? They can go fuq themselves. Repeatedly.

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Upcoming movie ‘First Man’ sparks controversy by omitting American Flag planting from moon landing

The upcoming “First Man” movie — based on American astronaut Neil Armstrong, who became the first man to walk on the moon in 1969 — is missing one of the most iconic and patriotic moments in U.S. history.

The film’s French-Canadian director, Damien Chazelle, opted to omit Armstrong planting the American flag on the moon, Business Insider reported. Canadian actor Ryan Gosling, who stars in the biopic, defended Chazelle’s decision to forgo the scene.

“First Man” premiered Wednesday in Italy at the 75th annual Venice Film Festival, and critics noted the flag’s absence.

Claire Foy of Netflix’s “The Crown” co-stars in the film as Armstrong’s wife. Corey Stoll of “House of Cards” plays astronaut Buzz Aldrin.

What did Gosling say?

Gosling argued that Armstrong’s accomplishment was viewed by the late astronaut as a “human achievement” rather than an American one, according to The Telegraph.

“I think this was widely regarded in the end as a human achievement [and] that’s how we chose to view it,” Gosling told reporters at the film festival. “I also think Neil was extremely humble, as were many of these astronauts, and time and time again he deferred the focus from himself to the 400,000 people who made the mission possible.”

The actor said he didn’t believe Armstrong saw himself as “an American hero.”

“He was reminding everyone that he was just the tip of the iceberg — and that’s not just to be humble, that’s also true,” Gosling continued. “So I don’t think that Neil viewed himself as an American hero. From my interviews with his family and people that knew him, it was quite the opposite. And we wanted the film to reflect Neil.”

Being from Canada, Gosling said he “might have cognitive bias.”

What else?

Armstrong’s family, including his two sons, authorized the biography by James Hansen, which the film is based upon. The astronaut died in 2012 at the age of 82.

“First Man” arrives in theaters Oct. 12.

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It's sad that they choose to do this in a movie about one of the bravest and cool headed astronauts ever to ascend into space. When Armstrong and the Apollo 11 crew blasted off towards the moon, NASA gave them only a 50% chance of survival. That took quite a bit of courage to proceed knowing the odds.

Also, when the LEM was descending to the lunar surface, they had overshot their expected landing site and where heading towards a field of craters that would have been sure disaster. With only a very short amount of fuel available for the descent, Armstrong took over the controls from the computer and guided the LEM to a landing safer landing site. He touched down with only 19 secs of fuel left in the tank. According to Buzz Aldrin, Armstrong was as cool and steady as anyone could have been and had it been anyone else, they most likely would have perished on the moon.

In Armstrong's later years, he was always very generous with his time and would not hesitate to sign and autographed picture for anyone that asked. People could literally send him a letter requesting a autographed picture and he would comply.

However he learned that people were taking advantage of his generosity and began keeping a list of people to whom he had given autographed pictures too. If someone who had already requested a picture, did so again, he would not send them one.

I have a friend who's father had received an autographed picture from him and also had met him a few times. He related that story to me.
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Are you serious? Holy fuq.

Sad thing is I really wanted to see this but I refuse since they wanna play liberal politics.

Then again it may not be that hard to skip it since I hate Ryan Gosling. Can't believe they picked a douche like that to play one of America's greatest heroes.
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Sad thing is I really wanted to see this but I refuse since they wanna play liberal politics.
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I wish those global (anti-American) snowflakes would make their reservations for a one way trip to Mars.
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Too close. They need to at least go to Saturn.
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Chuck Yeager isn't happy with liberal Hollywood's decision to throw their anti-American politics into the mix.

I hope this movie flops. Shame too because I was lookin' forward to seein' it but refuse to now that it's basically an anti-American/liberal agenda flick.

Chuck Yeager sets the record straight on Hollywood’s depiction of Neil Armstrong in new movie

Chuck Yeager, a World War II fighter pilot ace who became the first known pilot to break the sound barrier, took a swipe at Hollywood on Friday over the upcoming movie “First Man.”

The movie, staring Ryan Gosling, is based on American astronaut Neil Armstrong, who was the first person to ever step foot on the moon. However, the movie controversially omits a key detail in the first lunar landing: Armstrong planting an American flag on the moon’s surface.

Gosling said at the movie’s premiere in Italy that directors wanted to frame the lunar landing as a “human achievement,” rather than an American one.

“I think this was widely regarded in the end as a human achievement [and] that’s how we chose to view it,” Gosling said. “I don’t think that Neil viewed himself as an American hero. From my interviews with his family and people that knew him, it was quite the opposite. And we wanted the film to reflect Neil.”

What did Yeager say?

Yeager replied to a tweet noting that he personally knew a much different Neil Armstrong than the person Gosling described.

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@GenChuckYeager Ryan Gosling is coming out with the movie First Man where it portrays Neil Armstrong as a liberal progressive anti Trump (in spirit) non-flag waiver. Probably agree with the National Anthem kneelers, too; at least in Hollywood's liberal imagination.

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Later, he stepped up criticism, taking a swipe at Hollywood.

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“First Man” hits theaters Oct. 12.

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Perfectly put.

Liberal Hollywood’s ‘First Man’ gets it all wrong – Neil Armstrong was a proud American

Canadian actor Ryan Gosling stars as Neil Armstrong in the highly anticipated film titled “First Man.”

Gosling – who came out in 2015 as a fan of Bernie Sanders while later spoofing Donald Trump – was recently quoted in the Telegraph newspaper in London explaining why the American flag was deliberately left out of a movie chronicling the greatest scientific achievement in American history.

When asked by the paper if the film was an “un-American take on the moon landing,” the liberal actor replied that Armstrong’s accomplishment “transcended countries and borders.”

Gosling further explained: “I think this was widely regarded in the end as a human achievement and that’s how we chose to view it. I also think Neil was extremely humble, as were many of these astronauts, and time and time again he deferred the focus from himself to the 400,000 people who made the mission possible…So I don’t think that Neil viewed himself as an American hero…”

That is Gosling’s viewpoint. One could also wonder if he, the Canadian director and others in Hollywood wanted the film to incorporate revisionist history to push an ideological viewpoint of today.

In 1988, while working at the Reagan White House, I was afforded the rare opportunity to sit down one-on-one with Armstrong in the White House and it was, and is, one of the highest honors of my life. I was conducting interviews at the time for my first book, “Footprints – The 12 Men who walked on the Moon Reflect on their Flights, their Lives, and the Future.”

Armstrong and I spoke for about an hour and he could not have been nicer or kinder. He sensed I was nervous and put me at ease immediately by turning the tables and asking me questions about my background and my life. Even though I had heard he did not like to give autographs, when I mentioned my then-9-year-old niece Chrissy and 10-year-old nephew Christopher, he signed something to both on White House stationary.

Gosling is correct about one thing for sure. Armstrong was beyond humble. Weeks after our interview, he called me to ask that I not use it. He told me how very sorry he was to ask, but that upon further reflection, he was not comfortable talking about himself and did not want anyone to get the impression that the mission was about him.

I agreed immediately with his request.

While greatly disappointed – we ended up scrambling and using existing public quotes for the book – I was deeply impressed at how truly humble Armstrong was and how important it was to him that others receive the credit he believed they deserved.

On that subject, Gosling was only half correct when he speculated that: “…I don’t think that Neil viewed himself as an American hero.”

While Armstrong never viewed himself as a “hero,” he was incredibly proud to be an American. An American, who before becoming a test pilot and the first human on the moon, was a highly decorated naval aviator who flew 78 combat missions during the Korean War.

With regard to the slight against the United States and of the American flag being left out of “First Man,” Gosling jokes: “I’m Canadian, so might have cognitive bias.”

As someone who has more relatives in Canada than the U.S. – my family making its way from Nova Scotia to Boston decades ago – I would say his bias has nothing to do with Canada and everything to do with being liberal.

When I spoke with Armstrong back in 1988, he – along with all 11 other men who walked on the moon that I spoke with – very clearly saw the moon landing as an American achievement and was in fact, quite proud to plant the American flag in recognition of the American blood, sweat, and tears which helped get him and Buzz Aldrin to the surface.

Revisionist history in the support of partisan ideology is always dangerous…on any side. Over the last five decades, liberals have obtained more and more control over Hollywood. Precisely because of that power, the temptation to use film to change history can be overpowering.

That temptation acknowledged, the facts are that Armstrong felt very strongly about maintaining American preeminence in space. In 2010, Armstrong testified before the Senate saying that then-President Obama’s disappearing space program: “…presents no challenges, has no focus, and in fact, is a blueprint for a mission to nowhere.”

While Ryan Gosling has the right to put his spin on any subject of his choosing, he is wrong in this case.

Armstrong was a proud American who served his nation with great distinction who saw the moon landing as an American achievement worthy of an American flag being left on the surface forever in recognition of the tremendous sacrifice it took to get our nation there.

An American flag now censored from his hands in the movie “First Man.”
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Buzz speaks out and gives his opinion.

It's funny how predictable libs are. I'm not psychic but I knew exactly what position libs would take on this topic. I knew for a fact they'd side with Hollywood and against patriotism/American flag.

Then again I pretty much know libs' position on every issue before they even speak. It's not hard.

Anyways, let's see what Buzz has to say.

Buzz Aldrin slams 'First Man' movie controversy, posts photos of US flag on moon with 'Proud to be American' hashtag

Legendary Apollo 11 astronaut Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin took a swipe at the upcoming movie "First Man" late Sunday for its director's decision not to show the planting of the American flag on the moon during the historic 1969 mission.

Aldrin, 88, who was the second man to step on the moon, behind crewmate Neil Armstrong, posted historical photos of the flag-planting and added the hashtag “Proud to be an American.”

Armstrong, who died at age 82 in 2012, is the subject of "First Man," which stars Ryan Gosling and is scheduled to hit theaters next month.


In previous posts Saturday, Aldrin shared photos of himself wearing a T-shirt with the tagline “Buzz Aldrin, Future Martian” that shows an astronaut planting the American flag on the Red Planet.

He also retweeted a photo of himself saluting while standing next to an enlarged photo from the Apollo 11 mission that includes the flag on the moon.

But despite the controversy, actor Gosling, a native of Canada, defended the decision not to portray the flag-planting scene, saying at the Venice Film Festival that the decision was deliberate because the moon landing “transcended countries and borders.”

“I think this was widely regarded in the end as a human achievement [and] that's how we chose to view it,” Gosling told reporters. “I also think Neil was extremely humble, as were many of these astronauts, and time and time again he deferred the focus from himself to the 400,000 people who made the mission possible.”

Many mocked and criticized Gosling’s decision, with U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio decrying it as “total lunacy” and ignoring historical reality.

"This is total lunacy. And a disservice at a time when our people need reminders of what we can achieve when we work together. The American people paid for that mission,on rockets built by Americans,with American technology & carrying American astronauts. It wasn’t a UN mission."

“The American people paid for that mission, on rockets built by Americans, with American technology & carrying American astronauts. It wasn’t a UN mission,” Rubio tweeted.

But on Friday, Rick and Mark Armstrong, sons of the late astronaut, along with biographer James R. Hansen, released a statement pushing back against criticism and saying director Damien Chazelle's film is “quite the opposite” of being “anti-American.”

They added that the remarks about the film have been made largely by those who haven’t actually seen the movie yet.

“This story is human and it is universal. Of course, it celebrates an America achievement. It also celebrates an achievement 'for all mankind,'” the statement said, adding that “the filmmakers chose to focus on Neil looking back at the earth, his walk to Little West Crater, his unique, personal experience of completing this journey, a journey that has seen so many incredible highs and devastating lows.”

Chazelle himself also released a statement, insisting the omitting of the planting of the U.S. flag had nothing to do with politics.

“The flag being physically planted into the surface is one of several moments of the Apollo 11 lunar EVA [extravehicular activity] that I chose not to focus upon,” he said on Friday.

“To address the question of whether this was a political statement, the answer is no. My goal with this movie was to share with audiences the unseen, unknown aspects of America's mission to the moon — particularly Neil Armstrong's personal saga and what he may have been thinking and feeling during those famous few hours,” the director added.

Fox News' Amy Lieu contributed to this story.



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