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ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) The LPGA Tour boasts players from all over the world, and it wants all of them to be able to speak English.

Golfweek magazine reported on its Web site Monday that speaking English will be a requirement starting in 2009, with players who have been LPGA members for two years facing suspension if they can't pass an oral evaluation of English skills.

The tour held a mandatory meeting with South Koreans last Wednesday at the Safeway Classic to inform them of the new policy.

"Hopefully, what we're talking about is something that will not happen," deputy commissioner Libba Galloway told Golfweek. "If it does, we wouldn't just say, 'Come back next year.' What we would do is work with them on where they fell short, provide them the resources they need, the tutoring ... and when we feel like they need to be evaluated again, we would evaluate."

There are 121 international players from 26 countries on the LPGA Tour, including 45 players from South Korea.

Golfweek said that while South Koreans were informed of the rule, LPGA commissioner Carolyn Bivens has not given them a written explanation. But the message already appears to be lost in translation. The magazine said every South Korean player it interviewed believed she would lose her card - not be suspended - if she failed the English evaluation.

Angela Park - born in Brazil of South Korean heritage and raised in the United States - said the policy is fair and good for the tour and its international players.

"A lot of Korean players think they are being targeted, but it's just because there are so many of them," Park said.

Seon-Hwa Lee, the only Asian with multiple victories this year, said she works with an English tutor in the winter. Her ability to answer questions without the help of a translator has improved in her short time on tour.

"The economy is bad, and we are losing sponsors," Lee said. "Everybody understands."

The policy was endorsed by at least one tournament director, Kate Peters of the LPGA State Farm Classic.

"This is an American tour," Peters said. "It is important for sponsors to be able to interact with players and have a positive experience."

LPGA to require all players speak English | Tours & News | Golf.com

I wonder how many American competitors have to learn another language before being able to participate in international tournaments?
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The LPGA is a private organization that can makes decisions and rules as they see fit...

They already have regulations on apparel, the game itself, and I'm sure a multitude of other aspects...

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I think that what is required for golfing. Ball,tee, clubs etc. If you have to communicate in a tournament in the U.S. it is your responsibility to learn our phrases. But to learn to speak english in general. ****, There are Americans I can't understand. Golf isn't a talking game when you are in a tournament. Busy Bodies
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ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) The LPGA Tour boasts players from all over the world, and it wants all of them to be able to speak English.

Golfweek magazine reported on its Web site Monday that speaking English will be a requirement starting in 2009, with players who have been LPGA members for two years facing suspension if they can't pass an oral evaluation of English skills.

The tour held a mandatory meeting with South Koreans last Wednesday at the Safeway Classic to inform them of the new policy.

"Hopefully, what we're talking about is something that will not happen," deputy commissioner Libba Galloway told Golfweek. "If it does, we wouldn't just say, 'Come back next year.' What we would do is work with them on where they fell short, provide them the resources they need, the tutoring ... and when we feel like they need to be evaluated again, we would evaluate."

There are 121 international players from 26 countries on the LPGA Tour, including 45 players from South Korea.

Golfweek said that while South Koreans were informed of the rule, LPGA commissioner Carolyn Bivens has not given them a written explanation. But the message already appears to be lost in translation. The magazine said every South Korean player it interviewed believed she would lose her card - not be suspended - if she failed the English evaluation.

Angela Park - born in Brazil of South Korean heritage and raised in the United States - said the policy is fair and good for the tour and its international players.

"A lot of Korean players think they are being targeted, but it's just because there are so many of them," Park said.

Seon-Hwa Lee, the only Asian with multiple victories this year, said she works with an English tutor in the winter. Her ability to answer questions without the help of a translator has improved in her short time on tour.

"The economy is bad, and we are losing sponsors," Lee said. "Everybody understands."

The policy was endorsed by at least one tournament director, Kate Peters of the LPGA State Farm Classic.

"This is an American tour," Peters said. "It is important for sponsors to be able to interact with players and have a positive experience."

LPGA to require all players speak English | Tours & News | Golf.com

I wonder how many American competitors have to learn another language before being able to participate in international tournaments?
English is already the common language used in most diplomatic situations, it's the language used by air traffic controllers worldwide, it's the most studied 2nd language in the world -so why not use it as a common language for international situations?? What's the alternative - learn Estonian??
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I think that what is required for golfing. Ball,tee, clubs etc. If you have to communicate in a tournament in the U.S. it is your responsibility to learn our phrases. But to learn to speak english in general. ****, There are Americans I can't understand. Golf isn't a talking game when you are in a tournament. Busy Bodies
it's written that they give an oral evaluation of English skills...

It would depend on what's in that evaluation...
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it's written that they give an oral evaluation of English skills...

It would depend on what's in that evaluation...
Your right but I still don't see why its a real problem I am bad at languages. Bu I can always figure out enough to do business where I ned to.I will help them with french oo la la.
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Your right but I still don't see why its a real problem I am bad at languages. Bu I can always figure out enough to do business where I ned to.I will help them with french oo la la.
personal anecdote...take as you wish...

I haven't been to Atlantic City for some blackjack in a few years, but when I've been there, Koreans had a nice little cabal going there...

They'd break the rules every chance they'd get (like taking back chips or adding chips depending on the cards they're given), and when the dealer or floorperson would say no and try to reverse what the player tried to do, they'd pretend like they just came off the slow ship 12 minutes ago...It actually reminds me of Uncle Leo stealing books on Seinfeld("I'm an old man!...I'm confuuuuuused!")...

They intentionally played the "I have no idea what's going on routine"...and they played it horribly considering their reactions when things went their way...They knew what they were doing and everybnody knew it...

Is that's what's been happening with certain players on the tour?...When they break rules, are they sitting there with that "Uncle Leo" stare pretending they're innocent and the rules were just "lost in translation"?...

We don't know (it's not in the article), but an evaluation of their English skills would definitely put the kabosh on any attempted shenanigans...
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personal anecdote...take as you wish...

I haven't been to Atlantic City for some blackjack in a few years, but when I've been there, Koreans had a nice little cabal going there...

They'd break the rules every chance they'd get (like taking back chips or adding chips depending on the cards they're given), and when the dealer or floorperson would say no and try to reverse what the player tried to do, they'd pretend like they just came off the slow ship 12 minutes ago...It actually reminds me of Uncle Leo stealing books on Seinfeld("I'm an old man!...I'm confuuuuuused!")...

They intentionally played the "I have no idea what's going on routine"...and they played it horribly considering their reactions when things went their way...They knew what they were doing and everybnody knew it...

Is that's what's been happening with certain players on the tour?...When they break rules, are they sitting there with that "Uncle Leo" stare pretending they're innocent and the rules were just "lost in translation"?...

We don't know (it's not in the article), but an evaluation of their English skills would definitely put the kabosh on any attempted shenanigans...
Ha ha Come to China with me. LOL. They try to cut in front of you and act oblivious. You are right. When I walk the streets of Hong Kong people are always trying to sell me crap. They assume I am an english speaker. So when I say "hjdjhjfhjkhj" It really throws them off.
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Ha ha Come to China with me. LOL. They try to cut in front of you and act oblivious. You are right. When I walk the streets of Hong Kong people are always trying to sell me crap. They assume I am an english speaker. So when I say "hjdjhjfhjkhj" It really throws them off.
I hope that doesn't mean "Where's the redlight district?"
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Ha ha Come to China with me. LOL. They try to cut in front of you and act oblivious. You are right. When I walk the streets of Hong Kong people are always trying to sell me crap. They assume I am an english speaker. So when I say "hjdjhjfhjkhj" It really throws them off.
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I hope that doesn't mean "Where's the redlight district?"
It means "I have herpes and I want to marry your chicken."
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