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I was quite disappointed with the performance of California Chrome today, in the Belmont Stakes. It marked the twelfth time within the last 36 years that a thoroughbred has entered the Belmont Stakes with a chance to secure the Triple Crown--the first one since 1978--and failed.

But California Chrome's finish--a dead heat for fourth place--begs the question: If the horse had finished, instead, in a dead heat for first place, would that have counted as a Triple Crown?

I really do not know the answer to this.

Does anyone else?
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I thought they had to run the other two to make it to the Belmont. Found out today I was mistaken.
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I was quite disappointed with the performance of California Chrome today, in the Belmont Stakes. It marked the twelfth time within the last 36 years that a thoroughbred has entered the Belmont Stakes with a chance to secure the Triple Crown--the first one since 1978--and failed.

But California Chrome's finish--a dead heat for fourth place--begs the question: If the horse had finished, instead, in a dead heat for first place, would that have counted as a Triple Crown?

I really do not know the answer to this.

Does anyone else?
I think they would have checked the photo nine ways from Sunday and declared one a winner.
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I was quite disappointed with the performance of California Chrome today, in the Belmont Stakes. It marked the twelfth time within the last 36 years that a thoroughbred has entered the Belmont Stakes with a chance to secure the Triple Crown--the first one since 1978--and failed.

But California Chrome's finish--a dead heat for fourth place--begs the question: If the horse had finished, instead, in a dead heat for first place, would that have counted as a Triple Crown?

I really do not know the answer to this.

Does anyone else?
I don't believe there is an official triple crown. It's just an informal name for the winner of the 3 races.
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IMO the real loser at todays race was the whiny owner of Chrome. Blamed everything and everybody for the loss except a bad trip causing his horse to lose.
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I don't believe there is an official triple crown. It's just an informal name for the winner of the 3 races.
The Triple Crown of Thoroughbred Racing, often shortened to Triple Crown, comprises three races for three-year-old Thoroughbred horses. Winning all three of these Thoroughbred horse races is considered the greatest accomplishment of a Thoroughbred racehorse. The term originated in mid-19th century England and different nations where thoroughbred racing is popular each have their own Triple Crown series.

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The Triple Crown of Thoroughbred Racing, often shortened to Triple Crown, comprises three races for three-year-old Thoroughbred horses. Winning all three of these Thoroughbred horse races is considered the greatest accomplishment of a Thoroughbred racehorse. The term originated in mid-19th century England and different nations where thoroughbred racing is popular each have their own Triple Crown series.

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True that, but there is nothing official about it. No trophy is given , no extra prize, no betting odds. Belmont, Preakness, and the Kentucky Derby are separate races.

There is no policy that determines entry qualifications in all three races combined.
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There actually is a Triple Crown Trophy. (It has been brought to New York--for the Belmont Stakes--on 12 occasions since Affirmed's Triple Crown victory in 1978. But on each of those 12 occasions, it went unclaimed.)
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There actually is a Triple Crown Trophy. (It has been brought to New York--for the Belmont Stakes--on 12 occasions since Affirmed's Triple Crown victory in 1978. But on each of those 12 occasions, it went unclaimed.)
You are correct. It's been so long ago that I had forgot about it.
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IMO the real loser at todays race was the whiny owner of Chrome. Blamed everything and everybody for the loss except a bad trip causing his horse to lose.
You are correct; he did appear rather whiny--and embittered.

Still, I think he was basically correct: Those horses that appeared in neither the Kentucky Derby nor the Preakness--noe in any other races during that time period--were surely very rested, and in a position, therefore, to upset a superior horse.

But some things are still better left unsaid--especially at a moment that was never designed to be reflective and analytical, but should have been reserved, instead, for the winner's owner and supporters to bask in a moment of glory.
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