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Found this article interesting and it brought back memories. Also, we have quite a few younger posters here in their thirties and twenties who do not know a lot about some of our older and famous actors and musicians, who may as well be thousands of years old to them. Most do not realize many of them would be old enough to still be alive today.

See how old some of your favorites would be today. It is also neat to compare the ages of various individuals.

Here are some from the list.

How old would they be now? | Fox News

Grace Kelly - 82
Johnny Cash - 80
Ray Charles - 81
Audrey Hepburn - 83
Elvis Presley - 73
River Phoenix - 39
Hamk Williams - 88
Freddie Mercury - 65
Janis Joplin - 69
Buddy Holly - 75
Marilyn Monroe - 85
James Dean - 81
John Lennon - 71
Sam Cooke - 79
Stevie Ray Vaughn - 57
Bruce Lee - 71
Otis Redding - 70
Natalie Wood - 73
John Belushi - 62
Marvin Gaye - 73
Ritchie Valens - 70
Jim Morrison - 70
Keith Moon - 65
John F. Kennedy - 94
Jimi Hendrix - 69
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Lady Di would only be 51...
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I didn't know Stevie Ray Vaughn was as old as me. I always thought of him as younger.
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Found this article interesting and it brought back memories. Also, we have quite a few younger posters here in their thirties and twenties who do not know a lot about some of our older and famous actors and musicians, who may as well be thousands of years old to them. Most do not realize many of them would be old enough to still be alive today.

See how old some of your favorites would be today. It is also neat to compare the ages of various individuals.

Here are some from the list.

How old would they be now? | Fox News

Grace Kelly - 82
Johnny Cash - 80
Ray Charles - 81
Audrey Hepburn - 83
Elvis Presley - 73
River Phoenix - 39
Hamk Williams - 88
Freddie Mercury - 65
Janis Joplin - 69
Buddy Holly - 75
Marilyn Monroe - 85
James Dean - 81
John Lennon - 71
Sam Cooke - 79
Stevie Ray Vaughn - 57
Bruce Lee - 71
Otis Redding - 70
Natalie Wood - 73
John Belushi - 62
Marvin Gaye - 73
Ritchie Valens - 70
Jim Morrison - 70
Keith Moon - 65
John F. Kennedy - 94
Jimi Hendrix - 69
Kool. Most music fans don't know that when they watched, or watch guys like Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones or Steve Tyler of Aerosmith on stage that they are watching a re-run of Janis Joplin performances. That's who they learned their stage performance antics from.

Jim Morrison? 70? Whew, died when he was 27 in Paris of a drug overdose. His grave at Pierre le Chase Cemetery, five feet from Chopan's grave, is the only one marked with a map because teenagers today continue to discover Morrison and "The Doors" music and like it. I visited that grave on a rain-soaked Paris Wednesday morning at 8:00am, and about 100 people were already lined up outside the cemetery gates to get in to visit.

Over the years, the French police have finally come to terms with the popularity of this dead American rocker from Melbourne, Florida, by way of Whiskey A-Go-Go in Los Angeles, and provided direction and control for the crowds of music fans who continue to visit his grave. It is the second most visited attraction in Paris after the Eiffel Tower.

"The Doors" Greatest Hits CD is never out of stock in music store aisles, because their music was never dated, plus their fame grew when their music was used as the soundtrack for the Vietnam era movie "Apocalypse Now." A copy of French poet and recluse Arthur Rimbaud, who was a well recognized writer at age 14, stopped writing at 19, and died at age 29, never writing another thing after age 19 was found on the stand next to Morrison's bathtub. He was reading Rimbaud's "Season In Hell" poem at the time of his death.

Morrison was the son of a U.S. Army colonel, and there is still a disturbing the peace warrant out for his arrest in Miami, Florida, for his "alleged" exposure on stage in one of his early concerts. The Governor of Florida won't vanquish the warrant for some reason. Morrison was the Kubicki Theater of the Absurd on stage, spectacular or stupid, the band never knew what kind of performance they were going to get when he went on.

I have seen some computer generated images of Kennedy over the years and how he would have looked as he aged, and he maintains his looks well, sort of like Bill Clinton does.

The "Memphis Mafia" of hangers-on who "protected" but really were a bunch of idiot enablers, of Elvis Presley, should all have been indicted for manslaughter. Rock stars shouldn't die at age 42, or 50 like Michael Jackson. Princess Di, 51, another sad loss as was JFK, Junior, who probably was the only person the America people would ever have anointed as President of the United States if the kid ever indicated he was interested in politics.

Strange note. On the evening he died in that famous car crash, actor James Dean gassed his car up at the very same gas station in Beverley Hills, California that the Manson family did the evening before those hideous "witchey" girls went on their terrible killing spree in the Hollywood Hills. None have ever been released on parole, thank goodness, none ever should be. Of the actor's on that list, Natalie Wood and Audrey Hepburn were my favorites.

Roy Orbison, who Elvis Presley personally called the greatest rock and roll singer he ever heard, also died young, leaving a tremendous body of work. He and Johnny Cash were close friends and neighbors in Tennessee. Orbison and Sam Cooke had the best voices on the list, as did Marvin Gaye, killed by his father I believe. Oh well, my run-on reminiscence is over.........
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I often wonder how different this country would be if JFK had lived.
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I often wonder how different this country would be if JFK had lived.
MUCH better...No LBJ...
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MUCH better...No LBJ...
Not so sure. Kennedy, who gave the appearance of youth and vitality, really had a death wish and was quite ill throughout his Presidency. His favorite poem was "I Have A Rendezvous With Death." The "Dr. Feel Good" who prescribed valium throughout the White House had him addicted to them, and his youthful appearance was the result of a new drug discovery in the early 1960's called cortizone, which helped him with his bad back a lot. Because of his many brushes with injury, illness and near death, Kennedy never waited around to do anything, and haste in the White House can lead to disaster.

Personal life? Illness after illness and about as sleazy as you can get, but, of course, the American people didn't know that, to us, Jack & Jackie were the stars of a vigorous and exciting New Frontier for America around the world, which was highlighted by his commitment to the Space Race. But, at some point, the news of his personal life would have been leaked to the press and printed by somebody (perhaps even Hoover - but his boss was Robert Kennedy). That would have ended JFK's shining star quick, Hoover had the goods on all the Kennedy family from father through the three boys, Jack, Robert and Ted, who liked to share the same women.

In office, Kennedy made some big mistakes, not backing the Cuban Bay of Pigs revolutionary group in their invasion (because he held back the air power which would have knocked out the Cuban army on the beach). Although the operation was a holdover CIA sponsored Eisenhower approved move, had he used the air power, there would have been no Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, which almost brought us the end of the world. Robert Kennedy had as much to do with solving that crisis as his brother Jack did. He stuck Robert Kennedy in as Attorney General specifically to control J.Edgar Hoover, who hated him, and Hoover and LBJ were neighbors in Washington for decades.

Had Kennedy lived? To begin with, there was no surviving the assassination, the first bullet missed, the second (famous "magic bullet"), whistled past his bad spine causing the Thornburn Effect, exiting his lower throat area. The hand position to the neck area is not one of pain, it is an automatic muscular reaction when a spinal injury has taken place, and only death would have allowed his arms to be returned to their normal position. The third shot to the head wasn't even necessary. Kennedy was a Jim Brady-like veggie when that bullet hit him in the back, even if he survived it, he would never have been able to continue as President.

But - if he survived - the Soviets, who clearly underestimated him at the Vienna Conference, would have probably moved on Berlin, they had the audacity to put nuclear missiles in Cuba, in violation of our longstanding Monroe Doctrine. Although no friends of ours, the Chinese were supplying the Viet Cong and the North Vietnam regular army in Vietnam, where Kennedy dropped our armed forces into the middle of a civil war between Catholics and Buddhist's, and although he intended to end it somehow, he didn't live to do so. He was facing Communist challenges around the world his entire Presidential time in office.

Mostly it was our Cold War with the USSR which dominated Kennedy's administration along with the competition with them in the Space Race. A bit of a chance in Cuba early on, perhaps the Soviets don't underestimate him, but they were constantly keeping us in a clear state of tension and nuclear threat, and had ten times the military might as America, which would have rolled across Europe if the Warsaw Pact ever went to war. Only nuclear weapons would have stopped them, and that would have been nuclear winter.

At some point, all those foreign policy threats would have probably launched us in a direct confrontation shooting war with Russia under Kennedy. His commitment to Civil Rights was admirable, but he couldn't get the bill through a Southern dominated Congress, and he did use Federal Marshal's and the National Guard at Alabama, but on his watch, the Southern blacks remained in constant peril.

Johnson, who I put as Number 10 on my best President's list had an advantage over Kennedy, although not the charismatic type, he was a huge presence in Washington for years in Congress, launched the Great Society and the War on Poverty and passed the Civil Rights bill where Kennedy failed to do so.

Johnson also was a much more stable personality for the USSR, which didn't like surprises, and LBJ met with Brezhnev in New Jersey for the start of "detente" with the West, and Johnson was a more stable politician than Kennedy, at least to the Soviets.

I think the constant foreign policy disputes Kennedy was juggling in his 1000 day Presidency would eventually have led to nuclear or conventional war with the USSR. No mistaking how much America thought about the Kennedy luster in his short term, but the Camelot myth came after his death, not during. He is overrated because he was assassinated. In most American violent assassination or Vice Presidential takeover's of the office on the death of a President, it is the new President whose performance is closely evaluated. But in Kennedy's case, it is him, not LBJ, who the people still admire, while Johnson accomplished much, much more for America than JFK ever did, or would have.
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Four days from now, my dad would have been 102.
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You said a moth-full there.

I did not like LBJ at all. Kennedy would have most likely been a two-term POTUS.
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