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Old 02-03-2010, 08:18 AM
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Question Super Bowl Bets

I finally decided to take the Colts and lay the wood at -6 for a C note and play the UNDER for $50, at 56 points!!

The BIG money seems to favor the Colts right now at 1 & 1/2 to 1! I worry about the loss of Feeney and the pass rush, but I think Manning is on a mission???
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I bet 5 bucks on the NOS with my nephew.
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I bet 5 bucks on the NOS with my nephew.
And if he doesn't pay I'm gonna rub him out!...
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A wise man once told me never to bet on anything that you don't have a hand in.
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A wise man once told me never to bet on anything that you don't have a hand in.
...which is why you bet on your pants?...
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Colt's.........

But if the Saint's win... The first Super Bowl I like both teams...
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B-4 you bet think about the coin toss......

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If Saints win coin toss, Super Bowl could be over before it starts
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Shortly before the kickoff of Super Bowl 44 on Sunday, a group of captains representing the Indianapolis Colts and New Orleans Saints will meet at midfield. Referee Scott Green will introduce the ceremonial coin and a member of the newly elected Pro Football Hall of Fame class of 2010 will toss it to determine who gets the ball first. Saints quarterback Drew Brees(notes) will watch it spin into the Miami night and will call heads or tails.

And if he's lucky, he's wrong.

Of the 43 Super Bowls, the team that won the pregame coin toss has won 20 times and lost 23, a .465 winning percentage, and has lost 10 of the last 13. The Arizona Cardinals won the coin toss last year in Tampa, Fla., and, trying to buck history, became the first team to defer. Didn't matter: They lost, too.

The NFL's conferences alternate as the home team in the Super Bowl. The AFC is home this year, so the Colts had their choice of jerseys (they'll be in blue) and will stand on the sideline closer to the main CBS cameras. As the visiting team, the NFC's Saints will call the coin flip. The recent trend points to them being right.

Whether this should make Saints fans nervous is a matter of debate; because of the small sample size, some statisticians argue that the win-loss record of coin-toss winners is statistically insignificant. But decide for yourself: The NFC has won 12 straight coin flips and is 2-10 in those games.

If the Saints do win the coin toss, would it improve their odds of victory if they score first? Yes and no. Teams that score first are 28-15 but have lost five of the last eight.

Other Super Bowl coin-flip facts:

• In 43 games, the coin has come up heads 22 times, tails 21.
• The NFC has won the toss 29 times, the AFC 14.
• As mentioned, the NFC has won 12 straight flips. The odds of that: 1 in 8,192.
• The game's coin traveled into space with the shuttle Atlantis in November.

It wasn't until Super Bowl XII between the Dallas Cowboys and Denver Broncos that the NFL began honoring its legends during the pregame ceremony. Red Grange was the first honorary coin-tosser. The Cowboys correctly guessed heads and won the game 27-10.

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Sometimes sportswriters are desperate for a story, just like color commentators are desperate for a mindless factoid soundbite (here's a classic example that I just made up - "The Colts are 17-0 for every game where a penalty flag was thrown with less than 3 minutes left in the 3rd quarter!"). Both seem to gravitate to using statistics in a very un-mathematical way by drawing conclusions based on limited samples and by declaring the odds of a past sequence of events. If I take a coin that has been proven to be fair and I flip it 50 times and I get heads 50 times in a row, what are the odds that I'll get heads on the 51th flip? Answer: 1 in 2.

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Of the 43 Super Bowls, the team that won the pregame coin toss has won 20 times and lost 23, a .465 winning percentage, and has lost 10 of the last 13.
keep in mind that the bigger trend is that the team winning the toss has won 20 out of 43 times - close to 50/50, but you could selectively pull a sequence out that appears to be biased - just like the writer did by choosing the last 13 games.

Another problem - the writer notes that the NFC has won 12 straight flips, and then declares that the odds of that are one in 8192, which is horse hockey, since it implies that the odds of the NFC winning the toss tonight would be one in 16,384 (the writer also made a math mistake - the odds beforehand of winning a coin toss 12 times in a row are one in 4096.)

Sorry for the math rant - I get riled when sports writers that are paid well enough to have their work checked for accuracy (both conceptually and numerically) don't bother to do it.
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Sometimes sportswriters are desperate for a story, just like color commentators are desperate for a mindless factoid soundbite (here's a classic example that I just made up - "The Colts are 17-0 for every game where a penalty flag was thrown with less than 3 minutes left in the 3rd quarter!"). Both seem to gravitate to using statistics in a very un-mathematical way by drawing conclusions based on limited samples and by declaring the odds of a past sequence of events. If I take a coin that has been proven to be fair and I flip it 50 times and I get heads 50 times in a row, what are the odds that I'll get heads on the 51th flip? Answer: 1 in 2.

So, when the article states:



keep in mind that the bigger trend is that the team winning the toss has won 20 out of 43 times - close to 50/50, but you could selectively pull a sequence out that appears to be biased - just like the writer did by choosing the last 13 games.

Another problem - the writer notes that the NFC has won 12 straight flips, and then declares that the odds of that are one in 8192, which is horse hockey, since it implies that the odds of the NFC winning the toss tonight would be one in 16,384 (the writer also made a math mistake - the odds beforehand of winning a coin toss 12 times in a row are one in 4096.)

Sorry for the math rant - I get riled when sports writers that are paid well enough to have their work checked for accuracy (both conceptually and numerically) don't bother to do it.
The odds change when the coin is tossed in fact by which side was up before the toss. Thats why one team calls it before the Ref even puts in in position B-4 the toss.
I saw that on True TV, Not Reality But Actually..

Try it. 10 tosses in which the coin is showing heads. Then ten tosses with tails up. Then don't look at which side is up and toss it. Niow it must hit the ground each time.

But I do think it is a 50 50 chance myself... So I shall try it and see. Will get back to you, right here...
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I don't know if you guys heard them but on the CBS pre-game they were talking about whoever wins the coin toss in over time pretty much wins the game. Some are calling for a rule change there.
Anyhoo,


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