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The former politician and wrestler mines the world of supposed coverups and secrets on truTV while playing fast and loose with actual facts.

Jesse Ventura, who used to be the governor of Minnesota and before that was a professional wrestler known as "The Body," is now the star of a television docu-thriller series called “Conspiracy Theory With Jesse Ventura.” It begins tonight on the truTV network (formerly Court TV), whose motto is "Not reality. Actuality" and whose other shows include "The Smoking Gun Presents," "Operation Repo," "Inside American Jail" and "Rehab: Party at the Hard Rock Hotel."

The idea here is that Ventura investigates -- is seen to appear to investigate is probably a better way of putting it -- some of the best-loved semi-secret narratives of our troubled times, including the 2012 apocalypse and the secret bunkers to which you will not be invited; the Bilderberg Group ("their latest alleged plan is to thin out the world's population through disease and vaccines"); and the notion that 9/11 was a stunt arranged by George W. Bush.

Attended in his "War Room" by an "elite team of reporters, researchers and operatives," who resemble a little more closely the kids of "TMZ on TV" than they do the Impossible Missions Force, Ventura casts his gaze into the empyrean thicket where urban legend tangles with political discourse and coincidence can look like causation. The narrative insists that Ventura will keep his mind open, but I don't suppose any of these episodes will end with the Governor -- everyone calls him Governor here -- judging any of these theories to be bunk. You can leave that to the MythBusters.

If anything, the show stacks the deck in favor of the theorists, who get the most screen time and the best camera angles. Tonight's episode concerns HAARP, the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, an array of antennae in the Alaskan wilderness that shoots bursts of electricity into the ionosphere, which is said by some to have the capacity to change the weather, cause earthquakes and cloud the human mind. (The funding for the program comes largely from the Department of Defense.) The HAARP spokesman who counters the more sinister claims is said to be "in denial," rather than "making a denial," and HAARP itself is described as a "so-called research project" and "a weapon," though it has never been used as such. (The reply to that, I suppose, would be "How do you know it hasn't?")

The show is also conveniently loose in its interpretation of the word "evidence," which here seems to mean "something somebody says" -- as if my telling you there are monsters under my bed were proof that there are. There may be monsters under my bed, but for evidence you are going to have to go down there and take a picture, and I'm not just saying that because it's feeding time.

Whatever truth is out there, it's filtered here through what is arranged more as an adventure series than a documentary: "It all began when I got a call from a guy named Jerry Smith," says Ventura in his best gumshoe voice. "We met at an out-of-the-way tavern in St. Paul. He looked like an insurance agent but there was nothing mild-mannered about what he had to say."

I'm sure that the military would like to be able to control the weather and your mind -- who wouldn't? But you don't have to believe any of these, let's say, interesting propositions to find "Conspiracy Theory" enjoyable. In its mix of low budget and dramatic overstatement it has the amiability of a B-movie or Saturday afternoon serial.

The Governor's quest brings him right to the gates of HAARP, where he is denied entry (and his cameras go haywire). "An operation that's run by the Navy doesn't shut out a former Navy SEAL unless they've got something to hide," he says, and though this is an arguable statement, you put enough of them together and soon enough you're wearing a colander on your head to keep the voices out.

'Conspiracy Theory With Jesse Ventura' on a mission -- latimes.com
Granted...this is a somewhat (dated) article,this show has had two episodes thus far and I've seen them both.I've been aware of HARP and the "Truthers" for some time now. Still..the show is entertaining and I detected that even Jesse was having some minor difficulty keeping a straight face!

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Granted...this is a somewhat (dated) article,this show has had two episodes thus far and I've seen them both.I've been aware of HARP and the "Truthers" for some time now. Still..the show is entertaining and I detected that even Jesse was having some minor difficulty keeping a straight face!

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I saw it advertised but I wasn't aware it had aired already.
Sounds like a good fun show. Who doesn't love a good conspiracy?
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I saw it advertised but I wasn't aware it had aired already.
Sounds like a good fun show. Who doesn't love a good conspiracy?
Exactly...I do not automatically dismiss this stuff.However...I am a skeptic and I am willing to consider the evidence or lack thereof.I must admit that the show is indeed entertaining,I enjoy watching Jesse try to keep a straight face. No doubt that he believes some of this stuff but the show tries to draw you into the conspiracy as opposed to trying to dismiss it. One could say they are cherry picking supportive material....time will tell.
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Exactly...I do not automatically dismiss this stuff.However...I am a skeptic and I am willing to consider the evidence or lack thereof.I must admit that the show is indeed entertaining,I enjoy watching Jesse try to keep a straight face. No doubt that he believes some of this stuff but the show tries to draw you into the conspiracy as opposed to trying to dismiss it. One could say they are cherry picking supportive material....time will tell.
Wonder if they're going to do the 911 conspiracy or if that is off limits . Cause Jessie believes it he says.
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Wonder if they're going to do the 911 conspiracy or if that is off limits . Cause Jessie believes it he says.
They did that show last night and I missed most of it.From what I did see...it was in a word..preposterous..
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Who doesn't love a good conspiracy?
The problem here is that Jesse has no GOOD conspiracies...

The ones he uses are crap...
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The HARP piece was somewhat interesting but the 911 Truther stuff is crap! Let's hope he gets into some interesting material (perhaps a straight jacket) in the future.
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I tried watching this show last night. They were covering 9/11 and global warming. I had to turn it off after about 20 minutes. The show was just entertainment and presented more opinion without any sustainable facts.

While I believe human caused global warming is a lie, this show did not help prove it.

Sorry Jesse, this show needs to go.
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I saw it advertised but I wasn't aware it had aired already.
Sounds like a good fun show. Who doesn't love a good conspiracy?
saltwn....

Spencer just my thoughts on this...

I saw the one on HAARP.. It was good.. He got no where as a public facility was guarded with two security fences. But you saw the site our money is being used to keep it going.
Most people did not want an interview. Thats something strange... Isn't it?

Hey it is just a TV show.. So change the channel. Others might give it a look, so why not let each decide for themselves...?

But some data can be gleamed from it. Just my opinion..
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saltwn....

Spencer just my thoughts on this...

I saw the one on HAARP.. It was good.. He got no where as a public facility was guarded with two security fences. But you saw the site our money is being used to keep it going.
Most people did not want an interview. Thats something strange... Isn't it?
I've been aware of HARP for some time now. Much of the information was not new to "me" and for others,I'm glad it was on so they know a little more about it.

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Hey it is just a TV show.. So change the channel. Others might give it a look, so why not let each decide for themselves...?
Why so aggressive here? I was just giving my opinion. HARP was interesting and I found the 911 show not nearly as interesting. I'm not telling people not to watch.Chill out a little...

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But some data can be gleamed from it. Just my opinion..
Sure..you can always learn something but it may or may not be the truth.

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