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It’s telling that after President Trump was widely rebuked for suggesting a delay of the election, he wasn’t remotely chastened. Instead, he floated another scenario that could help him accomplish the same goal of avoiding a free and fair election:

He suggested that only the votes that can be tallied on Election Day should count.

This may seem like Trumpian bluster. But it’s much more alarming in light of an important new exposé in The Post that reports on big backlogs in mail delivery due to “cost-cutting” by the new head of the U.S. Postal Service — who, by spectacular coincidence, just happens to be a top Trump fundraiser.

And here’s an additional reason for alarm that needs more attention: The impact of those delays could be dramatically exacerbated by state laws that invalidate ballots that are mailed before Election Day but arrive after Election Day.

Guess which key presidential swing states have such provisions invalidating ballots that arrive after Election Day?

All of them do, with the exception of North Carolina.

“In states where ballots won’t count if they are received after Election Day, the impact could be devastating," Vanita Gupta, the CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, told me, adding that this could “result in potentially hundreds of thousands of ballots getting rejected.”

“The delays are going to be unpredictable with the cuts being made on the postal service,” Gupta continued. “That impact could turn a swing state completely.”

The Post exposé reports that Postmaster General Louis DeJoy is implementing changes that have critics charging that mail delays may be “the result of a political effort to undermine absentee voting.”
Wants to invalidate any ballot not received by election day; currently as long as it's post marked by election day it's good.
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One of the many reasons why mail in voting may not be all that great an idea.

Fact is the USPS cannot distinguish between my mail and my neighbors. And each piece of mail, including ballots, gets handled by dozens of personnel who can, if they choose, van simply lose them.
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One of the many reasons why mail in voting may not be all that great an idea.

Fact is the USPS cannot distinguish between my mail and my neighbors. And each piece of mail, including ballots, gets handled by dozens of personnel who can, if they choose, van simply lose them.
mail employees don't have that kind of time.
absentee voting takes place all the time. I do it myself. my son always votes by mail cause he lives in Oregon.
yes the envelope is over-sized and addressed to the local courthouse/ supervisor of elections. so they would know to push those out fast.
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mail employees don't have that kind of time.
absentee voting takes place all the time. I do it myself. my son always votes by mail cause he lives in Oregon.
yes the envelope is over-sized and addressed to the local courthouse/ supervisor of elections. so they would know to push those out fast.
Or they could just toss those oversized envelopes in the dumpster. Or "Forget" they left them in a box in a corner of the mail room.

You're making no argument for your case. You state they don't have that kind of time, then suggest that USPS will give ballots priority.
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Or they could just toss those oversized envelopes in the dumpster. Or "Forget" they left them in a box in a corner of the mail room.

You're making no argument for your case. You state they don't have that kind of time, then suggest that USPS will give ballots priority.
no not suggest; I told you they will. read up
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mail employees don't have that kind of time.
absentee voting takes place all the time. I do it myself. my son always votes by mail cause he lives in Oregon.
yes the envelope is over-sized and addressed to the local courthouse/ supervisor of elections. so they would know to push those out fast.
Right, Postal employees would never be able to tell a ballot came from a heavily Republican district so it can be shunted off for special processing.

Oregon has been voting by mail for more than a decade. It took a number of years prior to that for them to get the processes and infrastructure in place. Now it's supposed to be magically replicated nationwide.

Trump is right to be concerned about Democrats manufacturing votes after election day. That's how Al Franken became Senator. Ballots literally sprouted up from attics and all sorts of unlikely spots. Miraculously they were all for the Democrat, imagine that.
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