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Old 07-07-2020, 11:34 AM
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You make some good points but I'm still thinking Biden may end up looking really bad in a debate.
And the same headline (Biden DESTROYS Trump in Debate!!!!!) is already pre-written in all of the MSM's top drawers just waiting to be published...
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You make some good points but I'm still thinking Biden may end up looking really bad in a debate.

Biden's latest public exposure was really interesting. It was amazing to me how often he actually interrupted himself while he was answering a question. I don't know if you've ever been around somebody suffering the onset of dementia, but that is one of the early signs. They lose focus and interrupt their own sentences. I saw it with my dad before he died and I see it in my mother now. BTW, Trump also interrupts himself when talking and may also be suffering from the onset of dementia but it doesn't seem like it is as bad as Biden.
Biden is obviously not mentally well and appears to be rapidly getting worse. In a debate Jill will not be allowed to walk on stage and bail him out. And being unable to recall where you are when citing the Constitution will not go unnoticed.

I believe it's a myth that Trump is not a good debater. He beat Hillary (and 25 or so to get to her), which is why he is president.

Like you, I've lived with someone with dementia. Biden exhibits all the symptoms.
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Biden is obviously not mentally well and appears to be rapidly getting worse. In a debate Jill will not be allowed to walk on stage and bail him out. And being unable to recall where you are when citing the Constitution will not go unnoticed.

I believe it's a myth that Trump is not a good debater. He beat Hillary (and 25 or so to get to her), which is why he is president.

Like you, I've lived with someone with dementia. Biden exhibits all the symptoms.
He didn't beat Hillary in any of the debates. That's just foolish. He won because his base (white non-college educated white voters) doesn't really care about who had the more logical and reasonable arguments in a debate.

The good news is that it's only the core Trump base that buys this nonsense about Biden being in some sort of mental decline.
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The good news is that it's only the core Trump base that buys this nonsense about Biden being in some sort of mental decline.
Or, you know...be wrong abut it...

From less than a month ago...

The Zogby PollŪ: A majority of voters believe Biden is in the early stages of dementia; 60% of younger voters think so; Swing voters less likely to think Biden has dementia

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A majority (55%) of likely voters surveyed thought it was more likely (much more and somewhat more likely combined) that Vice President Biden is in the early stages of dementia, while 45% thought it was less likely (much less and somewhat less likely combined). Overall, subgroups who normally approve of Trump's job as president, were the most likely to believe Biden could be suffering from dementia. Thus, majorities of Republicans (77% more likely/23% less likely) and Independents (56% more likely/44% less likely) thought Joe Biden had early-onset dementia; while nearly a third of Democrats (32% more likely/68% less likely) thought this was the case
Just about 1/3rd of DEMOCRATS surveyed believe Biden "being in some sort of mental decline"...

Here's a little more....Guess what's NOT "core Trump base"...

Bernie Sanders supporters, progressives sound the alarm on Biden's 'cognitive decline'

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Attacks against former Vice President Joe Biden have escalated as many on the left are accusing the Democratic front-runner of being in "cognitive decline" and some are even claiming without evidence that he has "dementia."
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The good news is that it's only the core Trump base that buys this nonsense about Biden being in some sort of mental decline.
That's completely untrue.

I'm not part of Trump's base (skipped casting a vote for president in 2016 because neither candidate was worthy of my vote) and I can see that Biden is suffering mental decline. My eldest daughter is a huge Bernie Sanders fan (extreme liberal) and she told me she won't vote for Biden because he is losing his mental capacity. Her vote for 2020 will hinge on Biden's VP pick because she is convinced his VP will take over within 2 years. Her husband (also extremely liberal) is of the same opinion. I also have quite a few Libertarian friends that can't stand Trump but will not vote for Biden because they also think his mental faculties are failing and worse than Trump's.
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He didn't beat Hillary in any of the debates. That's just foolish. He won because his base (white non-college educated white voters) doesn't really care about who had the more logical and reasonable arguments in a debate.
To your point about logical and reasonable arguments, I guess it depends upon your ideas of government. If you agree with Central Planning and Socialist pipe dreams, yeah Hillary staked that ground.

I for one favor small government solutions to social and economic issues. I also favor personal responsibility and accountability over the approach of social and economic safety nets. That only leads to people being rewarded for bad decisions.
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[QUOTE=Constant_Slothrop;990313]He didn't beat Hillary in any of the debates. That's just foolish. He won because his base (white non-college educated white voters) doesn't really care about who had the more logical and reasonable arguments in a debate.






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And the same headline (Biden DESTROYS Trump in Debate!!!!!) is already pre-written in all of the MSM's top drawers just waiting to be published...
I think that those pre written press releases will quickly serve as toilet paper. Biden is doing well at present because he is hiding in his basement. As the campaign progresses, he will be forced into high pressure situations, far more public speaking, and the three debates. And the mental problems will rapidly accelerate.
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I think that those pre written press releases will quickly serve as toilet paper. Biden is doing well at present because he is hiding in his basement. As the campaign progresses, he will be forced into high pressure situations, far more public speaking, and the three debates. And the mental problems will rapidly accelerate.
What you are speaking of is REALITY...

Since when does that enter into the equation when it comes to a media's narrative?!?!?!...
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trumpers seem as motivated as ever to re-elect their guy.
i don't see that same motivation with democrats in general.
certainly some of them would be ready and willing to vote for hitler if it meant getting rid of trump.
but others...even so-called never-trumpers...are looking at biden and just aren't inspired.
i suspect low turnout from independents and those lukewarm on either candidate.
that probably favors the incumbent.
just my two cents.
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