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Good on PBS for doing the work. Nobody who worked for Joe Biden could either corroborate her claims of sexual assault, nor lend credence to the notion that Biden ever did, or was the kind of person that would do such a thing. Biden himself, while denying the claims made against him, has encouraged an investigation into them.

Also you'd think something like Reade's accusation would have showed up in the Dem VP vetting process or the GOP playbook in 2008, or 2012, or 2016 when it looked like he might run, if an actual complaint ever existed I mean.

IOW her accusation is looking more and more bullsh-t all the time.

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It’s interesting to see how thorough the PBS NewsHour reporters were in trying to assess Tara Reade’s allegations against Joe Biden. They identified and “tried to contact nearly 200 former staffers.” They ultimately interviewed 74 people, including 62 women, who worked for Biden over the years. Some were mere interns, others system administrators, and some were senior aides. Their experience spanned from his first run for Senate in 1972 all the way to his time as vice-president. Twenty of them worked for Biden in the early 1990s, at the same time as Reade. No one corroborated her primary accusation or offered anything that could reasonably be described as supporting information.

The interviews revealed previously unreported details about the Biden office when Reade worked there, such as an account that she lost her job because of her poor performance, not as retaliation for lodging complaints about sexual harassment, as Reade has said.

Other recollections from former staffers corroborated things she has described publicly, such as Biden’s use of the Senate gym and a supervisor admonishing her for dressing inappropriately.

Overall, the people who spoke to the NewsHour described largely positive and gratifying experiences working for Biden, painting a portrait of someone who was ahead of his time in empowering women in the workplace.

By the very nature of the allegations, it’s impossible for Biden to disprove. Her story can be checked for consistency and plausibility, however, and obviously it would be buttressed if it were echoed by other people who worked in the office at the time or it appeared like a recognizable pattern of behavior. That’s why it’s relevant to talk to people from every period of Biden’s career even when they obviously have no knowledge of Reade.

It’s true that most people who have worked for Biden have little to no incentive to lend support to Reade, but when 200 people are contacted, you’d think at least a couple would be disgruntled or perhaps ex-Democrats who want Biden to lose in November. If he created a hostile workplace for women, the likelihood of this would be even higher.

None of the people interviewed said that they had experienced sexual harassment, assault or misconduct by Biden. All said they never heard any rumors or allegations of Biden engaging in sexual misconduct, until the recent assault allegation made by Tara Reade.

One thing that is striking about these results is that it’s well known that Biden is a very grabby kind of guy. He hasn’t exactly asked permission to put his hands on women, and this habit is well-documented in video footage over the years. He has publicly acknowledged that he’s behaved inappropriately in this respect and apologized for it.

“Social norms are changing,” he wrote. “I’ve heard what these women are saying. Politics to me has always been about making connections, but I will be more mindful about respecting personal space in the future.”

It’s certain that Biden has made women on his staff uncomfortable at times throughout his whole career, so we might expect that some interpreted it as sexual harassment. Yet, none did. Instead, they said this:

Female staffers who spent countless hours with Biden, including in one-on-one settings, like his small private office in the U.S. Capitol, known as a “hideaway,” said he never made passes at them or behaved in other ways that suggested sexual impropriety.

The takeaway is that Biden did not exhibit a pattern of behavior that supports Reade’s allegations. If her charges are true, it represented an aberration.

The second purpose of the interviews was to establish if the details of her story are consistent and plausible. In other words, setting aside what Biden might have done, could it have happened in the way she described? The responses raised serious doubts about this.

Reade’s attorney told the NewsHour that Reade recalls the assault happening “in a semiprivate area like an alcove” and that it was “somewhere between the Russell (building) and/or Capitol building.” He pointed out that survivors often have difficulty with specifics about trauma.

Numerous staffers have offered public skepticism that an assault could have taken place in the area between Biden’s offices in the Russell building and the Capitol. This is what PBS Newshour discovered, too.

Reade’s description aligns with other staffers’ recollections of Biden’s short indoor route between his office and the Capitol. It is a roughly 10-minute walk that consists of one flight of stairs and one long hallway inside the Russell Building, followed by a wide tunnel through which he could walk or take an internal subway train to the Capitol.

The layout of that route and building has not changed. A recent walk through that area showed the subway tunnel contains no out-of-view areas, like an alcove. The remaining portion of the route includes multiple stairwells as well as corridors lined with offices. It is a main thoroughfare for senators and staffers.

Some former staffers told the NewsHour that if Biden did assault Reade in any of these places, it would have been a brazen attack in an area with a high risk of being seen.

We’re talking about something that is alleged to have happened almost 30 years ago, so all appropriate caveats apply. Reporters can only do so much to investigate the charges. In this case, they cast the widest possible net to find any possible corroboration. They investigated the supposed crime scene. Nothing they discovered adds credence to Reade’s story.

They did find someone who said she was fired for cause and others who said she was justifiably reprimanded for dressing inappropriately, which is at odds with her story. She said she was ordered to serve drinks at a reception, and this was directly contradicted by veterans of Biden’s staff who said he always asked men to perform that task. She said this occurred at a fundraiser, but the general consensus was that staffers were consistently banned from attending fundraisers or doing campaign work.

There are many other questionable things about Reade’s past that I could mention, but my interest isn’t in trashing the alleged victim. I just want to highlight that some laudable reporting occurred here, and what they found should help put people’s minds at ease about the possibility that Biden is some kind of sexual predator like the current occupant of the White House.

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/0...s-accusations/
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Good on PBS for doing the work. Nobody who worked for Joe Biden could either corroborate her claims of sexual assault, nor lend credence to the notion that Biden ever did, or was the kind of person that would do such a thing. Biden himself, while denying the claims made against him, has encouraged an investigation into them.

Also you'd think something like Reade's accusation would have showed up in the Dem VP vetting process or the GOP playbook in 2008, or 2012, or 2016 when it looked like he might run, if an actual complaint ever existed I mean.

IOW her accusation is looking more and more bullsh-t all the time.
Absolutely hysterical article!...

"We interviewed hundreds of people who are friendly to Biden, and because Reade didn't make her accusations public at the time, those hundreds of friends of Biden would never have known about it in the first place...

This one sentence actually made my laugh out loud...

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The takeaway is that Biden did not exhibit a pattern of behavior that supports Reade’s allegations. If her charges are true, it represented an aberration.
No pattern of behavior?!?!?!....



I guess the logic is that Biden only touches women (and young girls) JUST "inappropriately", instead of "really inappropriately"...


By the way....Did PBS interview "hundreds" of former and current Trump employees to ask about his "patterns of behavior"????...........................I didn't think so...
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PBS receives $500 million per year in taxpayer subsidies thanks to Democrats like Biden. It's no surprise their "investigation" confirmed the predetermined conclusion of Biden's purity.
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PBS receives $500 million per year in taxpayer subsidies thanks to Democrats like Biden. It's no surprise their "investigation" confirmed the predetermined conclusion of Biden's purity.
Remember when Obama appointed Eric Holder to investigate Eric Holder? It was just SOOOO incredible Eric Holder found no wrongdoing...

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PBS did an investigation of a Democrat? WOW. Then next thing you will tell me is that the MSM or the DNC may investigate. I wonder what will come of those investigations if they were to occur?

Actually, giving that Biden cannot put together more than 5 or 6 coherent words at any given time, it is entirely possible that the DNC may investigate as a predicate to drop him from the ticket as they know he will get trounced this November.
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Absolutely hysterical article!...

"We interviewed hundreds of people who are friendly to Biden, and because Reade didn't make her accusations public at the time, those hundreds of friends of Biden would never have known about it in the first place...

This one sentence actually made my laugh out loud...

No pattern of behavior?!?!?!....



I guess the logic is that Biden only touches women (and young girls) JUST "inappropriately", instead of "really inappropriately"...


By the way....Did PBS interview "hundreds" of former and current Trump employees to ask about his "patterns of behavior"????...........................I didn't think so...
I guess you don't know the difference between sexual harassment and normal behavior.
I don't know if Biden came on to this woman or not, but not having a track record of accusations at his age is a positive for his side of the argument.
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I guess you don't know the difference between sexual harassment and normal behavior.
I don't know if Biden came on to this woman or not, but not having a track record of accusations at his age is a positive for his side of the argument.
That's normal behavior? And which woman? That particular group is all young girls.

Biden's groping is sexual harassment.
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Good on PBS for doing the work. Nobody who worked for Joe Biden could either corroborate her claims of sexual assault, nor lend credence to the notion that Biden ever did, or was the kind of person that would do such a thing. Biden himself, while denying the claims made against him, has encouraged an investigation into them.

Also you'd think something like Reade's accusation would have showed up in the Dem VP vetting process or the GOP playbook in 2008, or 2012, or 2016 when it looked like he might run, if an actual complaint ever existed I mean.

IOW her accusation is looking more and more bullsh-t all the time.
The fact her accusation came out right as Biden win's his party's nomination or already had it in the bag should be a given that her accusation is bullshit. Its a shame that since too many people are partisan hacks(like those that claim to believe Bill Clinton's, Bret Kavanaugh's, Clarence Thomas's or Donald Trump's accusers) that they automatically jump on the "That muthafuckers guilty bandwagon just because he is on the opposing side. I don't need a liberal hack station like PBS asking all of Biden's buddies and supporters if he would do something like this to tell me that an unprovable accusation practically made at the last minute is bullshit.
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The fact her accusation came out right as Biden win's his party's nomination or already had it in the bag should be a given that her accusation is bullshit. Its a shame that since too many people are partisan hacks(like those that claim to believe Bill Clinton's, Bret Kavanaugh's, Clarence Thomas's or Donald Trump's accusers) that they automatically jump on the "That muthafuckers guilty bandwagon just because he is on the opposing side. I don't need a liberal hack station like PBS asking all of Biden's buddies and supporters if he would do something like this to tell me that an unprovable accusation practically made at the last minute is bullshit.
It's nice you have an opinion that the accusation against Biden isn't true. But we saw a parade of Democrat Senators rush to the podium proclaiming they believed the accuser after 30 years of silence despite her lack of any details.

Democrat media toadies generated story after story praising the "courage" of the accuser and attempting to paper over the huge gaps in her story. The same media is now producing all manner of "evidence" to block investigation of Biden much of it attacking the victim's credibility.

A personal opinion even one expressed with graphic crudity doesn't counterbalance the rampant hypocrisy of insisting Biden is innocent without an investigation after the lynch mob condemned Kavanaugh with no evidence.
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Good on PBS for doing the work. Nobody who worked for Joe Biden could either corroborate her claims of sexual assault, nor lend credence to the notion that Biden ever did, or was the kind of person that would do such a thing. Biden himself, while denying the claims made against him, has encouraged an investigation into them.

Also you'd think something like Reade's accusation would have showed up in the Dem VP vetting process or the GOP playbook in 2008, or 2012, or 2016 when it looked like he might run, if an actual complaint ever existed I mean.

IOW her accusation is looking more and more bullsh-t all the time.

Well we do know that there is more this this story, than Basley Ford's story about Kavanaugh. Did PBS investigate that story? Or did they just ignore it and tow the party line against the conservative?
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