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Oh really. Elizabeth Warren is one of the most educated and informed people in the US Senate so I'd be interested in hearing some of the "nonsense" that you've heard. Mind sharing just one or two examples.

I don't agree with all of her positions but she's very articulate in establishing her position and nothing I've heard from her could ever be considered to be nonsense. So surprise me with something that she's said that's nonsense.
"Hold on a second -- I'm gonna get me a beer." It was a deliberate attempt to paint herself as just an ordinary, every day Joe that people should comfortable with. However, it was so over the top patronizing and an insult to the middle class.

But being as she supports many of your political positions, you appear to be giving her a pass. It's a free country and you are free to do so. However, I don't wish to give the 1/1024th Native American any of my precious time.
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It doesn't appear that the number of refugees waiting to be allowed to apply for asylum is 6,000 is being disputed but instead it's about whether I have the names of each of them. What an absurd argument. That number has been provided for by the City of Tijuana government and we can assume it's correct.

ICE and the Border Patrol don't have the authority to any determinations on the application for asylum. That determination is made by our immigration courts. The application for asylum provides temporary residency and protection while the refugee's case is being adjudicated by the immigration courts. That 15% is also arbitrary because it's based upon our government fighting against allowing refugee status for the applicant.

It is odd that for a nation that welcomes refugees that the same government would fight in court against allowing refugees to remain in the United States based upon the technicalities of the oppression and tyranny they've faced in their native country. What difference does it make the child of a refugee is likely to be raped and killed by the government or by a local gang? The rape and murder is still the same.

In any case the DHS, ICE, and the Border Patrol do not have the authority to adjudicate the asylum request. All they have the authority to do is to process it and allow the refugee into the United States so that the immigration courts can adjudicate the case.

The day these refugees arrived at a US port of entry it was their turn to apply for asylum according to the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. It doesn't say, "arrive at a port of entry and wait six months or more before you can apply.

Previous administrations haven't had any problem with accommodating a large influx of refugees seeking asylum when they reached a US port of entry. Typically the refugees arrive in groups of 100 to 300 and it's the backlog of those groups that, over months and months, has resulted in 6,000 refugees being denied their right to apply for asylum in compliance with our laws.
Actually, Shiva, my post was about you backing up some of your wild assertions. Something you never bother with and when asked to so you just disappear. You say 6000 when at best the number might be 15% of that or 900. So once gain, can you back any of your post?
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I pick door number 3: He's lazy.
It's a video, how much easier can it be?
No i won't summarize it no matter how many third grade taunts you cast my way. But don't be scared. It has not much to do with politics. Just explains some economics of the middle class.
Warren's idiocy and corruption is a matter of public record you appear unable to articulate any part of it. It's pointless to try to engage in discussion with someone whose only response is watch the video like a brain dead zombie.
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