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As the Dems keep the "We Hate Trump" platform rolling, they solidify the states they already have in their pocket, but risk losing the rest of them...

Midwestern Democrats Want The National Party To Stop The Trump-Russia Talk

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In battleground states in the middle of the country, some Democrats watched with frustration as their party grabbed headlines last week with a splashy new lawsuit alleging a vast conspiracy between President Donald Trump and Russia.

The Democratic National Committee’s drumbeat of messaging on Trump and his relationship with Russia is wearing thin with some Democrats in purple states — particularly in the Midwest, where people on the ground say voters are uninterested and even turned off by the issue. The suit exposes a gap, they say, between the party’s strategy nationally and what Midwest Democrats believe will win elections in their state.

“The DNC is doing a good job of winning New York and California,” said David Betras, the Democratic county party chair in Mahoning County, Ohio, home to Youngstown. “I’m not saying it’s not important — of course it’s important — but do they honestly think that people that were just laid off another shift at the car plant in my home county give a **** about Russia when they don’t have a frickin’ job?”

Trump and Russia, Betras said, is the “only piece they’ve been doing since 2016. [Trump] keeps talking about jobs and the economy, and we talk about Russia.”

For some people working to elect Democrats in Midwestern swing states, the suit — which threads evidence of a conspiracy between Trump’s campaign, WikiLeaks, Russia, and Trump family members — prompted something akin to an eyeroll.

“I’m going to be honest; I don’t understand why they’re doing it,” said one campaign strategist in the Midwest of the DNC’s suit. “My sense was it was a move meant to gin up the donor base, not our voters. But it was the biggest news they’ve made in a while.”

Though he doesn’t see it hurting his campaign now, the strategist said, “I wouldn’t want to see something like this coming out of the DNC in October."

The suit is “politically unhelpful," another strategist in the Midwest said. "I haven’t seen a single piece of data that says voters want Democrats to relitigate 2016. ... The only ones who want to do this are Democratic activists who are already voting Democratic.”

A DNC spokesperson, Adrienne Watson, argued that the Democrats' focus in the midterms was far from Trump and Russia. Instead, she said, the party was "laser-focused on what matters most to Americans – good-paying jobs, affordable and accessible healthcare, and opportunity for all."

The party, Watson said, had been making "unprecedented investments in state parties, our tech infrastructure and base & rural communities — all things that haven’t been done by the DNC in almost a decade. This is our strategy for 2018 and it’s working."

Senator Claire McCaskill, fighting a tough reelection battle in Missouri, which Trump won by almost 20 points, called the DNC’s Russia suit a “silly distraction” through a spokesperson.

In places like Minnesota, for instance, where Trump lost only narrowly and his approval numbers have stayed flat, the state party says it plans to steer clear of him altogether with two Senate seats and an open governor’s race on the ballot. Messaging on Trump doesn’t do anything to move the needle, strategists there say.

And the Democratic Party’s attacks on Trump, especially when it comes to Russia, could even backfire in states Trump won handily — like Ohio, where the focus on taking the president down has kept some voters on the president’s side.
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As the Dems keep the "We Hate Trump" platform rolling, they solidify the states they already have in their pocket, but risk losing the rest of them...

Midwestern Democrats Want The National Party To Stop The Trump-Russia Talk
I hope they don't stop.

I do hope the GOP stops trying to beat Hillary this fall. Someone should let them know she isn't even running for political office.
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I disagree partially. We shouldn't completely ignore the rampant corruption in this administration, but local issues will always resonate much better than when Democrats (Or Republicans) try to nationalize a race.

We have a gubernatorial candidate in Michigan whose message is blunt and on target, because our roads really do suck that bad.

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I hope libs keep up the imaginary Trump-Russia conspiracy theory and that he allegedly banged a porn star. I want those two things to be their main platforms.
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I hope libs keep up the imaginary Trump-Russia conspiracy theory and that he allegedly banged a porn star. I want those two things to be their main platforms.
Stormy Daniels was paid $140,000 in hush money because it was only an alleged banging?



You're too much sometimes lol.
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Stormy Daniels was paid $140,000 in hush money because it was only an alleged banging?



You're too much sometimes lol.
Change the subject from the Russian witch hunt to rampant partisan speculation about Stormy Daniel's, you are too much sometimes.

Did you forget the idea of settling law suits for nuisance value?
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I find it hilarious how the MSM and liberals keep harping about how changes are a "referendum" against Trump. I don't recall them saying the same thing about Obama when the democrat party lost over a 1000 seats during his time in office.

The truth is, the party of the POTUS always loses seats during his tenure.
The fiction is, the MSM is high-lighting it this time around and pretending that it is rare or unique this time.
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Stormy Daniels was paid $140,000 in hush money because it was only an alleged banging?


You're too much sometimes lol.
Alleged $140,000. If you want to be fair, keep your "alleged" consistent.
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Alleged $140,000. If you want to be fair, keep your "alleged" consistent.
Just saying.
Why would it take 140k to bang a porn star? Usually a 6-pack of malt liquor and a beefy nacho griller value meal at Taco Bell does the trick.
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I disagree partially. We shouldn't completely ignore the rampant corruption in this administration, but local issues will always resonate much better than when Democrats (Or Republicans) try to nationalize a race.

We have a gubernatorial candidate in Michigan whose message is blunt and on target, because our roads really do suck that bad.
But if you are going to claim rampant corruption, one should at least be able to point to a valid example of such instead of baseless accusations.
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