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Old 04-04-2018, 11:17 AM
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really? The truthful answer answer is that it's CLEARLY Implied it in the JOKE.
Again getting back to my assessment...

The guy's joke says they are dead.
DOES NOT give any insinuation as to how they became dead.

By this logic, if somebody says to a gay person (or sinner in general) that God will judge them, then obviously that's meant as a death threat...



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Which is the answer i already gave you .. like 3 times now.
but you disagree ,
It's really easy to say something is there that is not there.
You have claimed this multiple times, but it doesn't make it any less of a lie.


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In your mind the JOKE didn't IMPLY ANYTHING, ONLY what he said Afterwards counts. But if that's the case then he made a joke at all did he?
Yeah. He did. A very bad one nonetheless.
Gun enthusiasts sometimes say that you can take the gun from their cold dead fingers.
So that can be done...

I think the real problem here is that the gun culture (like NRA fear-mongering) has an innate level of violence inbred and therefore they are seeing this from their own perspective.
It's not an issue that the threat of murder is actually there, but you guys see it there because any talk of taking guns is a threat to you guys.


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But let me make it simple for you.
" they say '...take the gun from their cold dead hands' .. OK...." Says the Potential Chief Law enforcement officer.
And the people Laugh, WHY?
becasue the statement, the "joke" IMPLIES, refers to KILLING people to take their weapons.

Gun enthusiasts sometimes say that you can take the gun from their cold dead fingers.
So that can be done...
It's essentially a joke at taking the claim as an offer that you agreed we could have your gun after you were dead.

Again, bad joke, but it's there.


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He HAS TO CLARIFY that that in seriousness he ONLY means after they are dead... from causes he does NOT SPECIFY. Which i admittedly added could be Death by LEO as well.
so there's that.
Again, nowhere in his speech does he talk about violence to acquire guns.
But you guys want to assume that...


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but again i ask you not to assume my INTENTIONS or Motives you CLEARLY have ZERO IDEA what my motives and intentions are. you CONSISTENTLY assume BS about my thoughts. Youre not a mind reader, so get off that shtick. just stick to my words in there COMPLETE Context or um maybe FREAKIN' ASK what people meant by something before you assume BS.
First of all
Seriously. You need to reread your words and take them as your own guidance.
THIS WHOLE THREAD is about gun enthusiasts assuming intentions or motives about this guy's words. You guys are acting as mind-readers to assume something he did not say.

And then you have the gall to accuse others of that???


Secondly, if you can explicitly point out what you are talking about where I did that, I'm all ears.
Until then, this is a hollow accusation.
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Ummm...no...
Remember what I said in the OP...
I had hoped that when the truth was exposed, you would do the genuine thing in coming clean.
Instead, you perpetuate this obfuscation misdirection.

I'm talking about the subject line YOU POSTED.
Democrat Candidate Jokes About Killing People Who Oppose Gun Confiscation
That is a blatant lie.


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When he said "those who say 'we'll have to pry your gun from your cold dead hands.'....OKAY", there was IMMEDIATE cheering and applause...There was no editing in that part...
obfuscation misdirection.
Was I talking about the applause?
No.

But when I point out the subject line was a lie, you try to change the subject.


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In other words, NOT ONE person that was cheering and applauding knew he was going to have an addendum...They took it to mean exactly what it sounded like...That he endorsed killing to take away guns...and they liked the idea...
IT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE THAT
Jesus. Then you perpetuate the damn lie.

He talked about people being dead.
NOWHERE did he intimate HOW they died.

Again, to ask you the same question...
Does that mean that anytime somebody talks about another person being dead, that it's logical to assume that it's actually a death threat???


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Second, he did not correct anyone for their cheers and applause...He went to his addendum as if no one clapped for the idea of killing to take away guns...
But even if you to absolve the speaker, himself, there's no way to absolve that crowd...that cheered him on BEFORE he added anything and made it sound as if he endorsed killing gun owners and taking their guns...
You guys still fail at comprehending what was actually the "joke".

Gun enthusiasts sometimes state: "You can take my gun from my cold, dead fingers"
It is an obvious threat against theft.
Instead of treating it as a threat against theft, this guy treated it as an offer.

Like saying "You can have my room after I go to college".
Okay. After you are dead, you said I could have your gun!

It's a bad joke, but it's not joking about murder.


Jesus.
You guys are so caught up in assuming threats and violence. Boogeymen around every damn corner.
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