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Old 04-02-2018, 11:21 AM
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:headscatch: umm Did you watch the video? I'm simply quoting what the man said in the video, no "lies" here fi66

the guy doesn't seem like a dumb person. he knew exactly what the joke implied by saying "OK" ... pause... then going on to add .. "after they pass away".
which still frankly can still be taken to mean after we kill you.. "they passed away from uhhh a serious case of 'resisting arrest'"
the point is it was a BAD joke. especially in the light of how many police have killed people over NOT breaking the law.
Not sure why you're so outraged.
Because the candidate is a Democrat would be my guess.
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:headscatch: umm Did you watch the video? I'm simply quoting what the man said in the video, no "lies" here fi66
Which video?
The HEAVILY EDITED 33 second version that cnredd posted?
Yeah. I saw that.

Did you watch the UNEDITED video?


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the guy doesn't seem like a dumb person. he knew exactly what the joke implied by saying "OK" ... pause... then going on to add .. "after they pass away".
So by this logic, if I talk about somebody passing away someday, that means I must be planning on killing them right?


The reasons you come away with that conclusion is:
a) you want to, and
b) you ignore everything else he actually said.
NOWHERE did he talk about killing anybody because they refused to give up their guns.


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which still frankly can still be taken to mean after we kill you.. "they passed away from uhhh a serious case of 'resisting arrest'"
If you're just going to continue with the bad lies, this conversation is going to end very quickly...
If you want to call it a "bad joke", then have the honesty to admit that he was not talking about "Killing People Who Oppose Gun Confiscation" as the subject line and the article claim.


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Not sure why you're so outraged.
I don't like people lying so blatantly to achieve political goals.
Simple as that.

If I were to claim you supported killing people who endorse gun control and then try to say you were "joking" about that (when you never gave that position in the first place), would you just have indifference to the situation?
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Old 04-02-2018, 04:58 PM
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Democrats in general are making a serious miscalculation believing that they have a mandate to rid the nation of guns that they don't like. They will do everything they can to circumvent the 2nd Amendment in an attempt to make it toothless. However, they are underestimating the resolve of the American People to maintain the Bill of Rights as written. If you notice, you don't see any of them attempting to outright repeal the 2nd. They know that will never fly. So they attack it on the fringes.
Democrats don't want to ban ALL guns. Only guns that can possibly kill someone if it gets into the wrong hands.
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Which video?
The HEAVILY EDITED 33 second version that cnredd posted?
Yeah. I saw that.
Did you watch the UNEDITED video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMDcn97gu2w
No, but i read the same in the article you linked.
this longer video doesn't change my point at all. the candidate says:
"...those who say 'we'll have to pry your gun from your cold dead hand.'
-shurg- "OK" -laughter and clapping- "uh" -more clapping- -pause-
"whenever you pass away we'll come get it it I don't know i'm just saying" -smile- "joking just a little bit there"...
all my points still stand. I know what he says it meant, I'm saying what it also clearly implies. especially in the light of police history.

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So by this logic, if I talk about somebody passing away someday, that means I must be planning on killing them right?
Not quite
It's more like this,
If a Christian were running for Sheriff and asked about gay prostitution and said well "In old Israel they killed homosexuals and adulterers... well OK... God said it. Just a little joke there. What the current law says is..."

It's a BAD joke. I suspect many on the lefts and rights heads would explode. Many people on the left are in fear of Fanatical Christians oppressing them and starting a THEOCRACY. Even though, unlike the many documented dead Americans citizens from poor fearful and overzealous policing of people just believed to have guns, there's no history of dead homosexual prostitutes at the hands of Christian police or Christians at large in America.

Someone representing a group with a history of abuse should not joke about being abusive.

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...If you want to call it a "bad joke", then have the honesty to admit that he was not talking about "Killing People Who Oppose Gun Confiscation" as the subject line and the article claim....
...The reasons you come away with that conclusion is:...
I didn't write the text of the Subject line and i didn't comment based on that. I commented on his words.
And please don't assume my motives. Please read my word in the BEST context and give me and my words AT LEAST the same benny of the doubt as those folks you're so aggressively defending.
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No, but i read the same in the article you linked.
this longer video doesn't change my point at all. the candidate says:
"...those who say 'we'll have to pry your gun from your cold dead hand.'
-shurg- "OK" -laughter and clapping- "uh" -more clapping- -pause-
"whenever you pass away we'll come get it it I don't know i'm just saying" -smile- "joking just a little bit there"...
all my points still stand. I know what he says it meant, I'm saying what it also clearly implies. especially in the light of police history.
So, likewise I can blindly assume that Christians support killing gays if they say being gay is a sin!
Makes perfect sense to assume the worst despite reality, eh?



The reality is that the vast majority of police officers and democrats do not kill people to acquire their guns, so this b.s. from you regarding "police history" is absolute hogwash on your part.


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Not quite
No. EXACTLY what I said.
Cause the guy's statements only talked about somebody being dead. He never intimated onto killing the person.
I realize you are past the stage of honesty on this, but that is exactly what happened.

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It's more like this,
If a Christian were running for Sheriff and asked about gay prostitution and said well "In old Israel they killed homosexuals and adulterers... well OK... God said it. Just a little joke there. What the current law says is..."

The candidate never said anything about killing anybody.
So you (predictably) have moved the goalposts to a convenient spot for yourself.

My analogy is much better.
Talking about gay being a sin is automatic endorsement for Bible's commands on killing gays.
Cuz "Christian history"...



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Someone representing a group with a history of abuse should not joke about being abusive.
Likewise for Christians, am I right?


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I didn't write the text of the Subject line and i didn't comment based on that. I commented on his words.
And please don't assume my motives. Please read my word in the BEST context and give me and my words AT LEAST the same benny of the doubt as those folks you're so aggressively defending.
You are promoting an assessment that he endorses killing people.
Is my statement above true or false?

Cause if it's true (and based on your statements it obviously is), it's not an issue of "benefit of the doubt".
You want to slander this guy and promote hysteria.
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Old 04-03-2018, 11:34 AM
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So, likewise I can blindly assume that Christians support killing gays if they say being gay is a sin! Makes perfect sense to assume the worst despite reality, eh? The reality is that the vast majority of police officers and democrats do not kill people to acquire their guns, so this b.s. from you regarding "police history" is absolute hogwash on your part. No. EXACTLY what I said.
Cause the guy's statements only talked about somebody being dead. He never intimated onto killing the person.
I realize you are past the stage of honesty on this, but that is exactly what happened. The candidate never said anything about killing anybody. So you (predictably) have moved the goalposts to a convenient spot for yourself. My analogy is much better.
Talking about gay being a sin is automatic endorsement for Bible's commands on killing gays. Cuz "Christian history"...
Likewise for Christians, am I right?
You are promoting an assessment that he endorses killing people.
Is my statement above true or false?
Cause if it's true (and based on your statements it obviously is), it's not an issue of "benefit of the doubt". You want to slander this guy and promote hysteria.
hmmm, you know what, Yes, you're absolutely right FI66 I want to slander this guy and promote hysteria. sheesh.
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hmmm, you know what, Yes, you're absolutely right FI66 I want to slander this guy and promote hysteria. sheesh.
You roll your eyes mocking my assessment but you fail to repudiate it.

So let's make this simple for you...
You said: then he adds "jokingly" that he ...as a law enforcement officer... is willing to kill you make sure it gets done.

So the question for you is this.
Did he say he "is willing to kill you make sure it gets done"?

The truthful answer is no. He did not say that (joking or non-joking).
You trying to lie to claim he did that is slander.
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You roll your eyes mocking my assessment but you fail to repudiate it.
So let's make this simple for you...
You said: then he adds "jokingly" that he ...as a law enforcement officer... is willing to kill you make sure it gets done.
So the question for you is this.
Did he say he "is willing to kill you make sure it gets done"?
The truthful answer is no. He did not say that (joking or non-joking).
You trying to lie to claim he did that is slander.
really? The truthful answer answer is that it's CLEARLY Implied it in the JOKE.
Which is the answer i already gave you .. like 3 times now.
but you disagree ,
In your mind the JOKE didn't IMPLY ANYTHING, ONLY what he said Afterwards counts. But if that's the case then he made a joke at all did he?

But let me make it simple for you.

" they say '...take the gun from their cold dead hands' .. OK...." Says the Potential Chief Law enforcement officer.
And the people Laugh, WHY?
becasue the statement, the "joke" IMPLIES, refers to KILLING people to take their weapons.
He HAS TO CLARIFY that that in seriousness he ONLY means after they are dead... from causes he does NOT SPECIFY. Which i admittedly added could be Death by LEO as well.
so there's that.

but again i ask you not to assume my INTENTIONS or Motives you CLEARLY have ZERO IDEA what my motives and intentions are. you CONSISTENTLY assume BS about my thoughts. Youre not a mind reader, so get off that shtick. just stick to my words in there COMPLETE Context or um maybe FREAKIN' ASK what people meant by something before you assume BS.
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You roll your eyes mocking my assessment but you fail to repudiate it.

So let's make this simple for you...
You said: then he adds "jokingly" that he ...as a law enforcement officer... is willing to kill you make sure it gets done.

So the question for you is this.
Did he say he "is willing to kill you make sure it gets done"?

The truthful answer is no. He did not say that (joking or non-joking).
You trying to lie to claim he did that is slander.
Ummm...no...

Remember what I said in the OP...

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As usual, it isn't simply about what this turd said...Watch the audience's REACTION...They're all on board...
When he said "those who say 'we'll have to pry your gun from your cold dead hands.'....OKAY", there was IMMEDIATE cheering and applause...There was no editing in that part...

In other words, NOT ONE person that was cheering and applauding knew he was going to have an addendum...They took it to mean exactly what it sounded like...That he endorsed killing to take away guns...and they liked the idea...

Second, he did not correct anyone for their cheers and applause...He went to his addendum as if no one clapped for the idea of killing to take away guns...

But even if you to absolve the speaker, himself, there's no way to absolve that crowd...that cheered him on BEFORE he added anything and made it sound as if he endorsed killing gun owners and taking their guns...
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This was obviously a tongue in cheek joke aimed at gun owners and enjoyed by anti gun people. But, the joke WAS about having no problem with prying guns out of the hands of dead gun owners, and if that happens? No problem, Tee Hee. Stupid joke, yes, but a joke none the less.

This is no different than the dumb jokes that Trump makes, and Liberals go crazy saying SEE! SEE! he really means that, HE's NOT joking!!!
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