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The difference between electronic voting and paper ballots is very simple...

Would you like to solve 10 problems from column A and have 10 new ones from column B or vice versa?...
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Seems to me the main problem most site against paper ballots is inconvenience.
But we've know for some time that electronic voting is NOT secure.

MIT Technology Review
How to Hack an Election in One Minute
Princeton U. researchers have released a study and video that demonstrate the ease of altering votes on an electronic voting machine.
by Daniel Turner September 18, 2006


"On September 13, researchers at Princeton University’s Center for Information Technology Policy (CITP) released a study detailing their successful attempt to hack a Diebold AccuVote-TS, one of the most widely used voting machines in the United States. The researchers, Ariel J. Feldman, J. Alex Halderman, and Edward W. Felten, also posted a demonstration video of their hack.

The CITP is not the first group to demonstrate the vulnerability of Diebold’s machines. BlackBoxVoting.org, Open Voting Foundation, and Johns Hopkins computer science professor Avi Rubin have all published accounts of security compromises in Diebold products. BlackBoxVoting.org wrote about their successful guerrilla project to swap out a Diebold voting machine’s memory card using $12 worth of tools in four minutes (the Princeton team says it can execute its hack in one minute).

But the previous reports simply highlighted potential holes in the Diebold machines’ security. The CITP study shows exactly how entire voting systems could be not just rendered inoperable, but deliberately hacked to rig an election. In fact, the CITP group developed a simple software virus to do just that, along with a method of deploying it...."
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Default Re: "Paper Ballot" Bill Introduced By Tulsi Gabbard

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sad to say I can't find ANY mainstream news coverage of this, LEFT or RIGHT...

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard introduces bill to require paper ballots or paper backup in all elections
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"Washington, DC—Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (HI-02) today introduced legislation to protect the country’s election infrastructure from cyber-hackers by requiring the use of voter-verified paper ballots or a paper ballot backup in federal elections. It authorizes emergency funding to empower every state to use voter-verified paper ballots that produce an auditable paper trail, beginning with the 2018 elections. It also addresses the need to ensure safe and secure software is utilized in voting machines on Election Day.

The Securing America’s Elections Act expands on progress made in Hawai‘i and 14 other states that currently produce voter-verified paper ballots to provide the American people with a secure, reliable, and independent record of their votes.

According to the Department of Homeland Security, 21 U.S. states’ electoral systems faced attempted hacking in the 2016 election. Shortly after, at the world’s longest-running and largest hacking conference, DEFCON revealed startling cyber vulnerabilities in US election infrastructure: hackers easily breached every piece of election equipment, some in mere minutes. Participants with limited prior hacking knowledge and few tools and resources were able to undermine and manipulate the privacy, integrity, and accessibility of election equipment – most of which is still widely used in state and local elections today. Following these revelations from DEFCON, states like Virginia took action and switched to a voter-verified paper ballot system in their 2017 election to ensure voter integrity and confidence in their elections infrastructure. They produced the highest voter turnout in two decades. However, serious vulnerabilities remain in most states.

I know Tulsi Gabbard isn’t the most popular figure on here (Daily Kos), but kudos to her for doing this. More Dems should be talking about using paper ballots! We keep hearing about Russian hacking but this painfully obvious solution is getting very little attention. Virginia switched to paper ballots in last year’s governor’s election and it worked great. The rest of the country needs to follow suit. It’s common sense!"
A broken clock is right at least twice a day. Paper ballots should be used as a back up to electronic voting machines. Maybe have the electronic machine print out a paper ballot after the choices are made the voter can drop off the printed paper ballot to ballot collecting machine.
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