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Elections Discuss Obama's Use of Complete Sentences Stirs Controversy at the Political Forums; Originally Posted by cnredd It's not a complint... It's Borowitz's version of satire... I understood Borowitz's satire. It's PALIN'S COMMENT ...

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It's not a complint...
It's Borowitz's version of satire...
I understood Borowitz's satire.

It's PALIN'S COMMENT that is the complaint...
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I understood Borowitz's satire.

It's PALIN'S COMMENT that is the complaint...
Someone please tell me Palin did not really say that!
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Someone please tell me Palin did not really say that!
She was probably tapping into studies that state that the average IQ in the US is less than average (98), so Obama's use of '$20 words' would seem elitist to many. Still not Obama's fault though...

It is the responsibility of anyone running for POTUS to dumb himself down to the 'average American'. Quite insightful of her, Sad for the people she actually was insulting though...
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I understood Borowitz's satire.

It's PALIN'S COMMENT that is the complaint...
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She was probably tapping into studies that state that the average IQ in the US is less than average (98), so Obama's use of '$20 words' would seem elitist to many. Still not Obama's fault though...

It is the responsibility of anyone running for POTUS to dumb himself down to the 'average American'. Quite insightful of her, Sad for the people she actually was insulting though...
there's no evidence she said that...In fact, a search comes up with NOTHING but references to the original article...
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Excuuuuse me! How bad a job does Bush have to do before we are allowed to tease him. Or make fun of his bad presidency. The right has ragged Clinton sense he was elected. And except for an affair he was compitent. Bush wanted the job bad. He did the job bad. So don't get mad when people call him on it.
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I didn't say anything about hate...what did you expect? you thought he would appoint only "inexperienced" personnel ? Granted..that would be change but if he did that you would just come at him from another angle. You would say that his inexperience is showing by making foolish appointments. You've got Obama in a no win situation,dammed if he does,dammed if he doesn't. He makes improvements and guidelines on appointing lobbyist to his admin and people say there is "no" change.The only thing Obama can win is an election....
So you're saying that there are no qualified people "outside the Beltway" for these jobs. Remember Condi Rice? DC outsider who ended up being SoS?? Aren't there any folks like her out there?? What about people in DC who aren't connected with any prior admins.? Are there none of them out there?? Keep in mind that I believe that Sen. McCain would have been putting DC insiders in place just as fast, but then he didn't run on a platform of "CHANGE!!". If Obama is truly interested in changing things, then I'd expect to see something other than what we're seeing so far.
One of the things that I've learned in life is that "first things usually come first". This means that the things that are most important to people are the things that are done first, talked about first, etc. What I'm seeing is that Obama's first things have been allowing lobbysits to sit in positions of power and putting in place "old school" politicians. Not a good start.
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there's no evidence she said that...In fact, a search comes up with NOTHING but references to the original article...
Do people transcribe all her speeches?
There's a LOT more juicy stuff people usually comment on. Frankly, I would be surprised if somebody else did comment on it, cause by itself it's just a "eh, it's just Palin being Palin but nothing special" type comment.

Bush has said a LOT of gaffes over the years. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few that only have limited availability on the internet as well...
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So you're saying that there are no qualified people "outside the Beltway" for these jobs. Remember Condi Rice? DC outsider who ended up being SoS?? Aren't there any folks like her out there?? What about people in DC who aren't connected with any prior admins.? Are there none of them out there?? Keep in mind that I believe that Sen. McCain would have been putting DC insiders in place just as fast, but then he didn't run on a platform of "CHANGE!!". If Obama is truly interested in changing things, then I'd expect to see something other than what we're seeing so far.
One of the things that I've learned in life is that "first things usually come first". This means that the things that are most important to people are the things that are done first, talked about first, etc. What I'm seeing is that Obama's first things have been allowing lobbysits to sit in positions of power and putting in place "old school" politicians. Not a good start.
Sure he could have but it would be more difficult and it would be very time consuming. We've been down this road before,I'm not exactly happy about it and I do see him backsliding on a promise. However...there is change here,guidelines are in place where they never existed before.As far as I know,"registered" lobbyists are not serving in any important capacity that would pose a conflict of interest..
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speeches or anything pre-written......Fobama always gets an A.


Ask him a question and the answer will be FULL of duhs, uhs, long pauses, and stuttering.

The mark of someone that has to FILTER everything they say because what they believe is unacceptable. In simpler terms a LIAR, prevaricator, and misdirector.
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Sure he could have but it would be more difficult and it would be very time consuming. We've been down this road before,I'm not exactly happy about it and I do see him backsliding on a promise. However...there is change here,guidelines are in place where they never existed before.As far as I know,"registered" lobbyists are not serving in any important capacity that would pose a conflict of interest..
Really??? Tom Daschle just got offered the HHS postion. He's been an employee of a law firm that is a MAJOR lobbying org. for the health services industry. You are right, he's not a registered lobbyist, just a top level employee of a lobbying firm, but that's just splitting hairs....
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