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As the McCain campaign ratchets up the intensity of its attacks on Barack Obama, some black elected officials are calling the tactics desperate, unseemly and racist.

“They are trying to throw out these codes,” said Representative Gregory Meeks, a Democrat from New York.

“He’s ‘not one of us?’” Mr. Meeks said, referring to a comment Sarah Palin made at a campaign rally on Oct. 6 in Florida. “That’s racial. That’s fear. They know they can’t win on the issues, so the last resort they have is race and fear.”

“Racism is alive and well in this country, and McCain and Palin are trying to appeal to that and it’s unfortunate,” said Representative Ed Towns, also from New York.
Black Congressmen Declare Racism In Palin?s Rhetoric | The New York Observer

Apparently, using rhetoric like 'God and Gun Clingers' isn't racist, yet, but 'Joe Sixpack' and 'Hockey Mom' are because Palin said them ...

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“If McCain’s attacks don’t cross the line, they’re certainly teetering on it,” said Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois. “He is certainly appealing to people’s fears and not their hopes.”
Ah, well, since Jesse 'Hymie Town' Jackson's son says it's 'racist', it must be true ...
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So something an Obama SUPPORTER says automatically becomes part of his campaign...

So if I dig up all sorts of racism from McCain supporters, then that automatically becomes racism from the McCain CAMPAIGN, right?

Does the neo-con "guilt by association" approach even require ANY association these days, beyond "I support Obama"???
Cause I read a couple days ago about somebody who shot a man for wearing an Obama t-shirt, and I think with your approach I could bring McCain up on at least aiding and abetting charges ...

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Addressing what these individuals said, it's stupid, but they are addressing a stupid Palin comment so I really don't care too much...
Quite frankly, I'm tired of trying to respond to the Ayers b.s. in an intelligent way, cause it's like trying to wash a pig while he's still in his filthy pig-pen.
Maybe we should just let the pigs from both sides be filthy in the same pen, and get a laugh as we watch from the side-lines...
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So something an Obama SUPPORTER says automatically becomes part of his campaign.
Ah, yes ... another classic example of the cognitive dissonance rampant in the Obama personality cult.

Does anybody else here not know or understand that Congressmen and Senators are Party campaign leaders and chairmen in their respective districts and states?
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Ah, yes ... another classic example of the cognitive dissonance rampant in the Obama personality cult.
Does anybody else here not know or understand that Congressmen and Senators are Party campaign leaders and chairmen in their respective districts and states?
A better question would be does anybody else actually look at it that way...
Cause so far, you're the only one making that assessment...

Once again, the REPUBLICAN dissonance rears its head where they create all sorts of new standards to try to perpetuate their "guilt by association" techniques.

This Democrat representative, speaking his personal opinion, does NOT reflect the "Obama Campaign" position.
We, the American people, have endured these sleazy tactics with the attempts to declare people as "terrorist sympathizers" when they oppose the invasions of privacy...
I think you need to realize EXACTLY why Bush's popularity rating is so low, and why McCain is losing ground in this election...
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So something an Obama SUPPORTER says automatically becomes part of his campaign...
According to Mikeyy anything a candidates supporters say is their responsibility:

http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/ope...cko-right.html
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This thing is getting out of hand. Its one thing to oppose somone's political views. But they are now creating some real hatred. They have gone way over the top. Their supporters are heard saying racist of inflammatory remarks.They scream "Terrorist and Kill him" And rather then bring down the rhetoric the McCains and Palin are pushing it even further.If someone takes a shot at Obama. I am going to blame McCain. If you are portraying yourself as a leader part of the job is to lead your own supporters. And McCain is leading them...Right down the gutter.
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According to Mikeyy anything a candidates supporters say is their responsibility:
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Are you trying to change the subject?
Cause the context is thoroughly different.
Palin is EXPLICITLY claiming Obama is "he’s palling around with terrorists".
Palin is responsible FOR HER WORDS affecting others.

Palin is DIRECTLY INCITING that issue.
I don't see anything from Obama saying "not one of us" is racial.
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The whole issue is that the whining moron Gregory Meeks who claimed that Gov. Palin was being racist is claiming to be a mindreader. He has no idea what she was thinking of when she referred to "one of us". I'd also like to see the context in which the phrase was used. Gov. Palin has stood on the idea of having an ordinary, middle-class family and my guess is that she's referring to the fact that Sen. Obama is not a member of the sub-group of Americans that are considered middle-class, ordinary folks kind of people. I'd put money on the idea that she was talking to a middle-class group of people.

Also, keep in mind that Meeks is one Sen. Obama's top surrogates (according to his own website Meeks To Provide Buses For Volunteers For The Obama Campaign | Congressman Gregory Meeks). This is not just the words of a "man on the street" Sen. Obama supporter, it's the words of one of his top people.
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The whole issue is that the whining moron Gregory Meeks who claimed that Gov. Palin was being racist is claiming to be a mindreader.
That ASPECT of the issue appears to have unanimous agreement.
Nobody has expressed support for "whining moron Gregory Meeks's" statement.

Previously, I stated: foundit66: "Addressing what these individuals said, it's stupid, but they are addressing a stupid Palin comment so I really don't care too much..."


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I'd also like to see the context in which the phrase was used.
Here's at least part of it...
Palin: “This is not a man who sees America as you see it and how I see America. We see America as the greatest force for good in this world….Our opponent though, is someone who sees America it seems as being so imperfect that he’s palling around with terrorists who would target their own country.”
Quote of the day: Palin on Obama - War Room - Salon.com

It's been bounced around the media a far bit.


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Gov. Palin has stood on the idea of having an ordinary, middle-class family and my guess is that she's referring to the fact that Sen. Obama is not a member of the sub-group of Americans that are considered middle-class, ordinary folks kind of people. I'd put money on the idea that she was talking to a middle-class group of people.
You'd lose that money.
Earlier, when I gave the "he's palling around with terrorists" in quotes, I wasn't being inaccurate or facetious.
That's her direct quote.


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Also, keep in mind that Meeks is one Sen. Obama's top surrogates (according to his own website Meeks To Provide Buses For Volunteers For The Obama Campaign | Congressman Gregory Meeks). This is not just the words of a "man on the street" Sen. Obama supporter, it's the words of one of his top people.
Meeks PROVIDES TRANSPORTATION, and suddenly that makes him a "campaign" person giving out CAMPAIGN DOGMA???

I don't know what's a bigger reach. Your explanation for what Palin said, or this last claim of yours.
Hertz supplied me with a car for my trip to Denver, but that doesn't mean they speak for me...


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I suppose I am the only one here who thinks that not only has Obama not played the race card. I don't think McCain has either. You can't control everyone around you though.
You're not the only one.
I agree with what you said, and all of your below comments in post #10.
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I suppose I am the only one here who thinks that not only has Obama not played the race card. I don't think McCain has either. You can't control everyone around you though. I will say that McCain is playing a dangerous game with this "Hussien" "Terrorist friends" stuff. We all know there are nuts out there who actually beleive this crap. And that could get out of hand even more then it is already. Palin needs to sht her friggin pie hole. McCain has the base of his party already. Now she is stirring up nuts out there. We are going to see something bad here if they don't get a grip soon. Some wacko is going to take a pot shot. And later they will find a love letter to Sarah. You don't play games like this. McCain is an irresponsible man. Who puts winning above all else.
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