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Obama says Ayers was just a "guy in the neighborhood"?...
Then someone explain to me why his wife, when she was the Associate Dean of Student Services and Director of the University Community Service Center Services, had him come to the University of Chicago to speak...on the same stage as her husband no less... ![]() Close-up on juvenile justice Quote:
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[/sarcasm] I'm shocked that you are trying to CREATE something out of nothing. I'm shocked that you don't have better things to do with your life than come up with these amateur conspiracy theories. You are getting closer and closer to bhkad, and that's something we should be concerned about.
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That was her task to get speakers to an event and make it a success.
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But irrelevant of what YOU think, let me ask you a simple question...
Shoulsn't the information be OUT THERE for people to make those decisions on their own?... That's a big issue with not only this, but almost every issue some take with Obama and his judgement... The press, his supporters, and even Obama himself tells the people what they can talk about and what they can't...And that's not only unfair for the deciders (the public), but also unfair to objective journalism, for the the right of expression, and free debate... So you see far too little...That's great...You can have your opinion and I'm DAMN sure that you haven't seen me try to prevent that in ANY fashion... ![]() But what happens when someone does NOT see "far too little"...You know...Like ME?... I get attacked, I'm told I'm acting irrationally...I'm told I'm the one smearing...I even get told that "I'M" the one wrong based on other members... You don't see a problem with that?...I sure as hell do... I would HOPE you would want all information public and let people form their own judgements and opinions... If 99% agree with you great...If 99% disagree with you, that's great... AS LONG AS the information gets displayed... But that's not what happening... ![]() Everytime someone brings something up that has ANYTHING to do with Obama, the supporters form a circle and attack the one displaying the information...Instead of simply saying "I don't agree", we get "I don't agree and you're an a-hole for bringing it up!"... We're now at a point where that stops real debate, all criticism is automatically tossed off instead of being legitimately refuted, and the ones that show it are dismissed... I'm getting VERY annoyed when debate gets tossed aside in favor of "I will criticize YOU for criticizing my candidate", and it's becoming an increasing trend here... ![]()
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![]() But why?...because McCains handlers over plaid the smear campaign and that's why your being dismissed when you persist in this endeavor! You know..it's kinda like the way YOU dismiss smear attempts against McCain. At some point..we are all shooting blanks but we all persist in the smear campaign. The difference is this..when I do it it's to reinforce my decision and the decision "already" made by fellow Obama supporters but when you smear Obama,you actually BELIEVE you're going to sway people against Obama! Good Luck..you're running out of time and the people have lost their patience with your parties ABUSE of canned SMEAR... ![]()
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