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Republican officials are exploring how to handle a scenario that would be unthinkable in a normal election year: What would happen if the party's presidential nominee dropped out?

ABC News has learned that senior party officials are so frustrated — and confused — by Donald Trump's erratic behavior that they are exploring how to replace him on the ballot if he drops out.
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Donald Trump's behavior has been so erratic in recent days it has lead many on both the left and rigth to believe that Trump might simply be insane.

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Is Donald Trump insane?

That’s the question being asked in recent days by prominent columnists, both liberal and conservative, about the Republican presidential nominee.

“During the primary season, as Donald Trump’s bizarre outbursts helped him crush the competition, I thought he was being crazy like a fox,” Eugene Robinson wrote in an op-ed (“Is Donald Trump just plain crazy?”) published Tuesday in the Washington Post.

“Now I am increasingly convinced that he’s just plain crazy,” Robinson continued. “I’m serious about that. Leave aside for the moment Trump’s policies, which in my opinion range from the unconstitutional to the un-American to the potentially catastrophic. At this point, it would be irresponsible to ignore the fact that Trump’s grasp on reality appears to be tenuous at best.”

“One wonders if Republican leaders have begun to realize that they may have hitched their fate and the fate of their party to a man with a disordered personality,” Robert Kagan, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, wrote in a separate Washington Post editorial on Monday. “We can leave it to the professionals to determine exactly what to call it. Suffice to say that Donald Trump’s response to the assorted speakers at the Democratic National Convention has not been rational.”

Vox founder Ezra Klein made a similar observation following Trump’s press conference the day after last month’s Republican National Convention. Instead of focusing on a unifying message, Trump resurfaced the debunked conspiracy theory that Texas Sen. Ted Cruz’s father was linked to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

“Have we stopped to appreciate how crazy Donald Trump has gotten recently?” Klein asked.

“Yes, Donald Trump is crazy,” Steven Hayes added last week in the conservative Weekly Standard. “And, yes, the Republican party owns his insanity.”

“I almost don’t blame Trump,” David Brooks wrote in the New York Times on July 29. “He is a morally untethered, spiritually vacuous man who appears haunted by multiple personality disorders. It is the ‘sane’ and ‘reasonable’ Republicans who deserve the shame.”

It’s not just op-ed columnists questioning Trump’s sanity.

... billionaire, Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban, also questioned Trump’s sanity.

“Donald initially — I really hoped he would be something different, that as a businessperson, I thought there was an opportunity there,” Cuban told CNN while campaigning with Clinton in his hometown of Pittsburgh on Saturday. “But then he went off the reservation and went bats*** crazy.”

“We can gloss over it, laugh about it, analyze it,” Stuart Stevens, chief strategist to Mitt Romney’s 2012 campaign, wrote on Twitter. “But Donald Trump is not a well man.”
Trump, in the past, was categorized as being a classic example of a person with narcissistic mental disorder. Now some are questioning whether he also suffers from a severe form of paranoid personality disorder based upon recent and past behavior. He would not be alone because other famous people, such as Stalin, Saddam Hussein, and Richard Nixon also suffered from this mental disorder that separates the person from reality.

The reason that the GOP leadership is concerned are the recent Donald Trump statements that the general election is going to be rigged.

Trump: 'I'm afraid the election's going to be rigged'

Of course the general election will not be rigged and only a delusional person would make such a claim.

This is a classic sign of a paranoid personality disorder where the person never sees themselves as being responsible but instead invent conspiracies in their mind to explain their failures. It's always "someone was out to get me" whenever they fail. In Trump's delusional mind he's already fabricating a reason why he can't win in November and that same delusional belief could result in him withdrawing as the Republican nominee. "Why play if everyone is out to get me and I can't win?" or that's the thinking of a person that invents paranoid beliefs to explain their own failures.

I can understand why the GOP leadership is concerned with Trump's irrational and erratic behavior. Trump's behavior reflects the delusional thinking of a person that is very much out of touch with reality.
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I can understand why the GOP leadership is concerned with Trump's irrational and erratic behavior. Trump's behavior reflects the delusional thinking of a person that is very much out of touch with reality.
The GOP leadership concern is something I can appreciate.

For some of the GOP voters which fail to recognize his irrational and erratic behavior? That is something I find disturbing.
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For some of the GOP voters which fail to recognize his irrational and erratic behavior? That is something I find disturbing.
Actually what is much more disturbing is the left is running Hillary "robber" Clinton. Oh did I mention she lies as a government official?

How you could be doing that is REALLY the question.

GOP officials had better clean up their house as the DNC is now doing. I think those who are against Trump are just like the Democrats, and are answering to entreched elite powers that own them both. If you read some posts here, you would know that...

NO one owns Trump, and that is the real problem for the elite.

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It's kind of like the Ross Perot thing he really started acting strange when it got a few months away.
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Subject: U S CODE, TITLE 18, SECTION 2071

Word for word from the Cornell Law Library

Former United States Attorney General Michael Mukasey tells MSNBC that not only is Hillary Clinton's private email server illegal, it "disqualifies" her from holding any federal office.

Such as, say, President of the United States. Very specifically points to one federal law, Title 18. Section 2071.


For those of us who do not have United States Code committed to memory, here's what it says:

“(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.”

Yes, it explicitly states "shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States.

Sounds like Hillary is not legally qualified right there doesn't it?

F'ing crooked DOJ is the only reason she can run.

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Trump is out of touch with reality like most conservative voters, living inside the bubble to shield them from reality.
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Actually what is much more disturbing is ...
Hillary ain't the topic of this thread.


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NO one owns Trump, and that is the real problem for the elite.
What a meaningless way to address the actual issues raised.
It's entirely possible for an adult to behave himself civilly and professionally, without being "owned".

Trump's ego is so fragile he seemingly cannot walk away from a meaningless fight.
A presidential race? It looks like some people think he could easily walk away from that.


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It's kind of like the Ross Perot thing he really started acting strange when it got a few months away.
I don't recall Perot ever approaching THIS level of weirdness...
And maybe some of it involves the likelihood of actually getting elected.

Take Jill Stein for example...
Jill Stein is a fearmongering crank who thinks Wi-Fi harms children's brains / Boing Boing
Most people are ignoring that. Probably because she doesn't have a snowball's chance in hades.
Perot didn't really have a chance.
Trump had himself neck and neck. Although he's pissed that away.
Ergo, he gets attention...
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Former United States Attorney General Michael Mukasey tells MSNBC that not only is Hillary Clinton's private email server illegal, it "disqualifies" her from holding any federal office.
And when Republicans put up private email servers and deleted emails, nobody cared or pursued criminal charges.
Flashback: Rove Erases 22 Million White House Emails on Private Server at Height of U.S. Attorney Scandal – Media Yawns | Pensito Review

The problem that exists is how some people IGNORED the above, but demand absolute criminal indictment for today...
Selective criminal procedures motivated by political gain.
Has no place in our government.

If we had held GW Bush's and Rove's feet to the fire like you now demand for Clinton, THEN I could agree on equal justice.
But the truth is you don't give a damn what your own side does. You're just attacking Clinton with whatever you can and ignore the actual history of it all...
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Hillary ain't the topic of this thread.



What a meaningless way to address the actual issues raised.
It's entirely possible for an adult to behave himself civilly and professionally, without being "owned".

Trump's ego is so fragile he seemingly cannot walk away from a meaningless fight.
A presidential race? It looks like some people think he could easily walk away from that.



I don't recall Perot ever approaching THIS level of weirdness...
And maybe some of it involves the likelihood of actually getting elected.

Take Jill Stein for example...
Jill Stein is a fearmongering crank who thinks Wi-Fi harms children's brains / Boing Boing
Most people are ignoring that. Probably because she doesn't have a snowball's chance in hades.
Perot didn't really have a chance.
Trump had himself neck and neck. Although he's pissed that away.
Ergo, he gets attention...
I don't remember exactly but he accused the Republican party of trying to ruin his daughters wedding or something to that effect with doctored pornographic pictures. He dropped out then later reinstated.
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Actually what is much more disturbing is the left is running Hillary "robber" Clinton. Oh did I mention she lies as a government official?

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About 75% of Trump's claims/statements, when fact checked, are either false or misleading. In case you didn't know making a false statement is also called lying.

There's also a huge difference between lacking integrity and lacking a grasp of reality, living in a delusional world of paranoia, due to a treatable mental illness.

We should take a step back from the politics for a moment and realize that Donald Trump needs professional mental help. This isn't about attacking Donald Trump but instead it's about caring about Donald Trump. His irrational behavior fits the symptoms of a paranoid personality disorder and that is a reason for concern about Donald Trump. Yes, we all care about our nation but sometimes it's important to care about a person as well and that's what I'd like to point out to everyone regardless of political leaning.

In addressing the politics the GOP leadership is actually being very thoughtful and intelligent in addressing the possibility that Trump may choose to drop out because that fits with a paranoid personality disorder. Trump is already being delusional by asserting if he loses it will be due to a conspiracy where the November elections are rigged. He cites what he considers to be irregularities in the Republican primaries not realizing that the primaries are not addressed by the Constitution and the law. If he believes the general election is going to be rigged then it gives him an excuse to withdraw to avoid the humiliation of defeat. He simply can't accept the fact that he would lose for any other reason so withdrawing is an option for him.

From the "Republican" perspective it would be a good thing if Trump does drop out. The Republican leadership (not the delegates) are then free to choose who they want to run and they have the option of selecting someone that can defeat Hillary Clinton. Some have suggest Paul Ryan even though he wasn't a candidate. It stretches the GOP rules a little but there's many reasons for selecting Paul Ryan not the least of which is campaign financing because the big dollar GOP donors have refused to fund Donald Trump. Ryan could also defeat Hillary Clinton while other GOP candidates are borderline at best. If Ryan was the GOP candidate, assuming Gary Johnson is politically censored by being excluded from the Presidential Debates, then even I might vote for Ryan.

I really don't know all of the answers but I do know that Donald Trump displays most of the symptoms of a person with a paranoid personality disorder and he's living in a very delusional world. The man needs professional mental health treatment because he's "not all there" mentally. It has nothing to do with whether I'd vote for him because obviously I wouldn't anyway but I am concerned about Trump as a person.
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