What did you think of the Presidential debates? How have people in your area reacted to it?

Did the debates change or affirm your choice?

Do you think there was a winner or loser ?

Discuss your opinion.

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I think it was Obama. He was clear. And he was concise. McCain kept throwing up lies. Hoping that some of it would stick. McCain can't look at Obama. And BTW. You can see another bullheaded sombitch at work in McCain. Does he come across as someone who will listen to any opinion but his own. Who does that remind you of?

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I think that the debate was close to even. McCain loses on that point because he needed to make a big impression to gain points and didn't make it.

McCain spent a lot of time talking about the past and who he knows. It was pointless during the economic discussion, but of some benefit during foreign policy. It did come across purely as 'name dropping' rather than a show of experience IMO.

And did you notice him pull the prison camp thing right at the end? Its the prison card he plays so well.

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I was a bit disappointed and I call it a draw. However..I found McCain a bit mean spirited,did anyone else notice he would not even glance at Obama? I got the feeling that McCain was struggling with keeping his anger in check.Still..there were no major blunders.

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"Destiny must be shaped and not left to mere chance."..Spencer Collins

I would call it a draw. I think that Obama clearly won on the issues, but that's not what the debate is really about. The debate is a media stunt designed to show leadership. Both men showed leadership, but there is a distinct difference between the two. Each fell into the traditional traps.

McCain was the quintessential schoolyard bully, refusing to give Obama any intellectual credit. In addition, his debate style was far more arrogant than Obama's. McCain was pulling the typical "I'm right, right or wrong" posture.

Obama on the other hand fell into the traditional democratic trap. He was too smart and too polite for his own good. There were plenty of opportunities for Obama to turn up the heat on McCain and he just didn't. Obama was the intellectual, the academic, and that's why people assume he's elitist.

If you are an intellectual and scoring the debate on that scope only, Obama won. If you are evaluating the debate on speaking skills, it's a tie. If you are evaluating on theatrics, McCain wins.

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I saw nothing...

Nobody said anything that killed themselves...Nobody said anything that was a knockout punch...No "gotchyas"...No "quote of the day"...Just pre-conceived quotes they've been tested on for the last week...Kinda ho-hum...

As I said in the Shoutbox earlier, the only thing I could take out of this debate was Obama repeatedly saying "McCain's right"...He must've said it a half a dozen times (if not more)...McCain would be smart to use that in his next campaign ad as fodder...

Other than that, it was a draw...and not an exciting one at that...

If anyone "won", it wasn't by such an amount that it would make a difference to the electorate...The McCain supporters will say "McCain was great" and the Obama supporters will say "Obama was great."...

But, in reality, it was a night of "blah"...

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"You get the respect that you give" - cnredd

I keep hearing this "liar" accusation but somehow its never backed up by the facts. Prove that he "lied".

Mccain deliberately avoided "contact" with Obama because he did not want to make it "personal". It is the sign of a "good statesman" to not directly CONFRONT.

Mccain also allowed Obama to talk. He DID NOT interrupt him as both Obama and Leher kept doing to John.

And did you notice that "African-American" reference at the end...... its the card that he plays so well.(mockery intended here)
Saw a good sticker today........Obama.....half honky, all donkey

Obama was not "too polite" he was rude and disrespectful.....he interrupted many times, made faces and noises, and kept calling him John while John respectfully called him Senator.

After some more review you'll probably discover that Obama did NOT WIN.

Mccain definitely did not lose.

In the long run America loses with either one winning although one will be a quicker loss.

Side point for ya'll about the "meeting at the White House" yesterday. The democrats all deferred and turned the talking over to Obama who immediately attacked the Republican House representatives and frazzled the meeting into a big argument and accomplished NOTHING. John deferred and ONLY spoke last and tried to save the meeting that Obama destroyed. And as far as the "agreement" that the democrats "announced" and said Mccain's coming was not needed.......well unfortunately they made the agreement among themselves and forgot to include all the pertinent parties.

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"Most people can't think, most of the remainder won't think, the small fraction who do think mostly can't do it very well. The extremely tiny fraction who think regularly, accurately, creatively and without self delusion---In the long run these are the only people that count."Robert Heinlein

I didn't see it with Obama that much, but I noticed it ALOT with Lehrer...

When he told Obama they had to move on, he still let Obama finish his answer (and also make a few extra points there was "no time" for)...

But with McCain, he put the brakes on immediately on more than one occasion and put the kabosh on his answers...

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"You get the respect that you give" - cnredd

I don't know what debate Adept was watching, but McCain interrupted Obama on multiple occasions. It's a part of debate.

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