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Old 04-13-2016, 04:03 AM
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-tr...601303094.html

This is the only thing I have found that is not a hit piece on Trump, by yahoo...

This is how Trump is in real life. The comments are from those who know the man the best. It is backed up by the many women he has in his organization.

He treats them the same as men. Attack him as a woman, and be surprised that he will come back at you, as if your a man. Say what you want, but you can not say he dislikes or disrespects women, as a person who doesn't know him..

I can see the left wing media has had a terrible effect of lies told so many times they are slowly becoming the truth.. The inability of so many to fail to recognize the hyperbola of lies, and to just give into the lies is most troubling of all. To think the left wing media can do this and get away with it, is troubling indeed. Actually I think it means that we as Americans are screwed. And we never get back from here..

Pray there is not a revolution in the next couple of years..

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Old 04-13-2016, 06:22 AM
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Can I borrow this line of reasoning for a minute?
If Obama has so little respect for our military, please explain why those who work for him are not all over the news bitching about the military hater they work for?
Wow. Guess that proves Obama doesn't hate the military like some on the right claim...
I guess we have to school f66, AGAIN!

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Article 88 of the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) makes it a crime for a commissioned officer to use "contemptuous words" against the President, Vice-President, Secretary of Defense, and other specified high government officials. Enlisted members can be prosecuted under Article 134 for using similar words. The words have to be "to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, or conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces." Military members have gotten into trouble for calling officials "fascists," "thieves," murderers" "tyrants" "fools" and "gangsters." This law is selectively enforced. Some officers didn't get in trouble for saying bad things about President Clinton, for example. Article 117 of the UCMJ outlaws using "provoking or reproachful words or gestures" towards someone else in the military. The more real danger, however, if from saying things that could make other members desert, disobey lawful orders, or refuse to do their jobs. That kind of speech could violate Article 82 of the UCMJ, which makes it a crime for someone in the military to ask someone else to desert or mutiny (disobey orders as a group).
GI RIGHTS - FREE SPEECH IN THE MILITARY

And as of 2014 his approval rating within the military was at an all time low of 15%.

Military members give Obama 15 percent approval rating | Washington Examiner
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Hey MrL...
Did you see this thread?
http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/new...tml#post810938
Or can I just take it as read that I was 100% right about your mistake there...


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I guess we have to school f66, AGAIN!
And some companies have in their contract warding against employee comments disparaging the company.
This is really irrelevant to the actual point made.
If you had read the earlier points I was addressing, maybe you could have gotten that.

And has already been aluded to, there is the $$$ involved.
If one of Trump's employees spoke out against him, they could easily be fired.
This level of parallel was not something that needed to be "schooled". But rather a further demonstration of why the original claim by 300 H and H was absurd.


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And as of 2014 his approval rating within the military was at an all time low of 15%.
Military members give Obama 15 percent approval rating | Washington Examiner
The poll itself is irrelevant.
It asks about his job as Commander-in-Chief. Approval vs disapproval.
This thread is about Trump's misogyny and the parallel would be Obama hating the military.
There is no intelligible way to equate "disapproval" with an opinion that they think he hates the military.

Thanks for providing irrelevant and already understood data.
It's kind of funny that you think you "schooled" anybody with that.
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Hey MrL...
Did you see this thread?
http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/new...tml#post810938
Or can I just take it as read that I was 100% right about your mistake there...



And some companies have in their contract warding against employee comments disparaging the company.
This is really irrelevant to the actual point made.
If you had read the earlier points I was addressing, maybe you could have gotten that.

And has already been aluded to, there is the $$$ involved.
If one of Trump's employees spoke out against him, they could easily be fired.
This level of parallel was not something that needed to be "schooled". But rather a further demonstration of why the original claim by 300 H and H was absurd.



The poll itself is irrelevant.
It asks about his job as Commander-in-Chief. Approval vs disapproval.
This thread is about Trump's misogyny and the parallel would be Obama hating the military.
There is no intelligible way to equate "disapproval" with an opinion that they think he hates the military.

Thanks for providing irrelevant and already understood data.
It's kind of funny that you think you "schooled" anybody with that.
sorry f66, I was right on target regarding your post. I know that you can't see that and you think you are smarter than everyone else, but trust me when I say, you're not.

And no you can't take my not answering one of your stupid posts as assuming you were right. I am just not narcissistic like you are in answering everything someone else posts. I said my peace and move on, unlike you who needs to have the last word whether it is right or not.
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Kirk is right though, Trump treats men and women equally.

If either gender criticizes him he reacts like an immature little brat. He acts like a d-ck to everyone, he called both Rand Paul and Carly Fiorina physically ugly in so many words.

He offends a majority of men and women like no presidential candidate before.

His huge tax cuts for the rich will be huge beneficial both to Mr. and Mrs. CEO with an Panama shell company.
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sorry f66, I was right on target regarding your post. I know that you can't see that and you think you are smarter than everyone else, but trust me when I say, you're not.
The funny thing is that you really can't comprehend the mirror image here...
I could just as legitimately say to you: sorry MrL, I was right on target regarding your post. I know that you can't see that and you think you are smarter than everyone else, but trust me when I say, you're not.

The ad hominem you devolve to while at the same time dropping the actual substance of the topic is a problem.
You are no longer interested in discussing the topical points.
You just want to berate me.


Getting back to the topic, the parallel stands.
300 H&H's attempted argument was b.s.
I was not presenting a real argument. Maybe MrL didn't grasp that fact.
I was presenting a comment analogous to 300 H&H's in order to expose the flaws in 300H&H's absurd assessment.
300 H&H: If he (Trump) has so little respect for women, please explain why those who work for him are not all over the news bitching about the man hater they work for?
foundit66: If Obama has so little respect for our military, please explain why those who work for him are not all over the news bitching about the military hater they work for?
I was not actually arguing over whether or not people in the military hate / don't hate Obama.
I was exposing 300 H&H's previous argument (the one I originally responded to) as flawed by using his logic.

MrL doesn't seem to have grasped that.
MrL's comment (like I explained but instead of addressing that MrL goes full ad hominem) actually fits into my point.
We cannot take a lack of EMPLOYED complaints as any kind of evidence that the underlying problem does not exist.
Any woman under Trump's employ who bashed him would risk being fired.
Any military person under Obama's command who bashed him would risk UCMJ punishment.
That actually substantiates the actual point I was making.

But MrL thinks he was refuting me when he actually points out a flaw in the approach. A flaw I actually agree with.



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And no you can't take my not answering one of your stupid posts as assuming you were right. I am just not narcissistic like you are in answering everything someone else posts. I said my peace and move on, unlike you who needs to have the last word whether it is right or not.
So which is it?
Do you acknowledge what you said in that thread was wrong?
Or are you refusing to acknowledge it and simply want to avoid it like the plague...
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Saw a poll today that showed Hillary beating Trump 50-37, in Georgia. McCain, Romney, and Bush twice, won that state by a fair margin

Trump is so unpopular he could fracture the southern wall Republicans have enjoyed for 16 years.
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I like how everyone claims Trump is so awful and hated by everyone, yet he continues to dominate. If no one likes him, why is he leading in the Republican primaries and been leading in the polls since almost the beginning?

Seriously, I can't think of a recent presidential candidate took the early lead in a crowded field and held it for this long.

These threads and polls are basically fear-mongering and a weak-ass attempt to scare peeps away.
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