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Old 09-10-2008, 09:27 AM
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Different Strokes for Different Parties?

If you're a minority and you're selected for a job over more qualified candidates you're a "token hire."

If you're a conservative and you're selected for a job over more qualified candidates you're a "game changer."

Black teen pregnancies? A "crisis" in black America.

White teen pregnancies? A "blessed event."

If you grow up in Hawaii you're "exotic."

Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, you're the quintessential "American story."

Similarly, if you name you kid Barack you're "unpatriotic. "

Name your kid Track, you're "colorful."

If you're a Democrat and you make a VP pick without fully vetting the individual you're "reckless."

A Republican who doesn't fully vet is a "maverick."

If you spend 3 years as a community organizer growing your organization from a staff of 1 to 13 and your budget from $70,000 to $400,000, then become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers150,000 new African Amerian voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, then spend nearly 8 more years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, becoming chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, then spend nearly 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of nearly 13 million people, sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you are woefully inexperienced.

If you spend 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, then spend 20 months as the governor of a state with 650,000 people, then you've got the most executive experience of anyone on either ticket, are the Commander in Chief of the Alaska military and are well qualified to lead the nation should you be called upon to do so because your state is the closest state to Russia.

If you are a Democratic male candidate who is popular with millions of people you are an "arrogant celebrity".
If you are a popular Republican female candidate you are "energizing the base".

If you are a younger male candidate who thinks for himself and makes his own decisions you are "presumptuous" .

If you are an older male candidate who makes last minute decisions you refuse to explain, you are a "shoot from the hip" maverick.

If you are a candidate with a Harvard law degree you are "an elitist-out of touch" with the real America.

If you are a legacy (dad and granddad were admirals) graduate of Anapolis, with multiple disciplinary infractions you are a hero.

If you manage a multi-million dollar nationwide campaign, you are an "empty suit".

If you are a part time mayor of a town of 7000 people, you are an "experienced executive".

If you go to a south side Chicago church, your beliefs are "extremist".

If you believe in creationism and don't believe global warming is man made, you are "strongly principled".

If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.

If you have been married to the same woman with whom you've been wed to for 19 years and raising 2 beautiful daughters with, you're "risky".

If you're a black single mother of 4 who waits for 22 hours after her water breaks to seek medical attention, you're an irresponsible parent, endangering the life of your unborn child.

But if you're a white married mother who waits 22 hours, you're spunky.

If you're a 13-year-old Chelsea Clinton, the right-wing press calls you "First dog."

If you're a 17-year old pregnant unwed daughter of a Republican, the right-wing press calls you "beautiful" and "courageous. "

If you kill an endangered species, you're an excellent hunter.

If you have an abortion you’re not a Christian, you're a murderer (forget about if it happen while being date raped.)


If you teach abstinence only in sex education, you get teen parents.

If you teach responsible age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

If you're a Republican senator who solicits gay sex in an airport bathroom, you get to return to your job in the Senate and are encouraged to run for re-election.

If you're a Democratic Senator who is out of public office and have an affair, your political career is over and your wife who has terminal cancer is to blame.

And finally:

Quiz question for the RNC, specifically those on the Religious Right.
Who is one of the most revered, and famous community organizers in
history?
JESUS CHRIST
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OK, now break out your cut and paste comparison of Pres. Bush to Hitler.

I could do the exact same kind of pick and choose comparison to make Sen. Obama look like a complete cull (but I'll leave that to bhkad, he get far more enjoyment out of it). Your post takes the worst of one side and compares it to the best of the other side. I could do the same with WWII Germany and WWII America and make WWII Germany look like a bunch of saints led by a brilliant orator with a vision for the future of mankind, all I have to do is pick and choose what I look at. Your post is no different. It's a cherry-picked bunched of crap - full of half-truth, assumptions and flat out lies, with a sprinkling of (very well filtered) truth to give it credibility. X 1000
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Quiz question for the RNC, specifically those on the Religious Right.
Who is one of the most revered, and famous community organizers in
history?
JESUS CHRIST
This just in ... comparing your candidate to Jesus Christ might just make you an elitist.

Jim Jones was a community organizer as well. I'm betting Obamasiah is more like him than he is like Jesus Christ.

All I know is whatever he pours in my cup, I sure as hell won't be drinking...
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A. I didn't do that.

B. Comparing Obama to Jim Jones just might make you a paranoid right wing wackjob

C. Well, that's okay. There will be others along with you on the wrong side of history.
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OK, now break out your cut and paste comparison of Pres. Bush to Hitler.

I could do the exact same kind of pick and choose comparison to make Sen. Obama look like a complete cull (but I'll leave that to bhkad, he get far more enjoyment out of it). Your post takes the worst of one side and compares it to the best of the other side. I could do the same with WWII Germany and WWII America and make WWII Germany look like a bunch of saints led by a brilliant orator with a vision for the future of mankind, all I have to do is pick and choose what I look at. Your post is no different. It's a cherry-picked bunched of crap - full of half-truth, assumptions and flat out lies, with a sprinkling of (very well filtered) truth to give it credibility. X 1000
I'm sorry.

Did you refute something in the post?
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A. I didn't do that.

B. Comparing Obama to Jim Jones just might make you a paranoid right wing wackjob

C. Well, that's okay. There will be others along with you on the wrong side of history.
A. I didn't say you did. It's obvious that you just regugitated it. On the left, no one is ever responsible for their rhetoric. That's how Obama continues to get away with claims that he's not just as dirty as all politicians are.

B. Their both socialists worshipped unquestioningly by their followers.

C. If you say so. I'm just hoping that once Barackstar puts my company out of business I can find a job flipping burgers or somehow finding a way to please his worshipfulness and his flock of sheep.
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OK, now break out your cut and paste comparison of Pres. Bush to Hitler.

I could do the exact same kind of pick and choose comparison to make Sen. Obama look like a complete cull (but I'll leave that to bhkad, he get far more enjoyment out of it). Your post takes the worst of one side and compares it to the best of the other side. I could do the same with WWII Germany and WWII America and make WWII Germany look like a bunch of saints led by a brilliant orator with a vision for the future of mankind, all I have to do is pick and choose what I look at. Your post is no different. It's a cherry-picked bunched of crap - full of half-truth, assumptions and flat out lies, with a sprinkling of (very well filtered) truth to give it credibility. X 1000
The comparison to WWII Germany is a good one...

In fact, it's already been done in the exact same manner that tristan attempted...

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It is time to elect a new world leader, and your vote counts.

Here are the facts about the three leading candidates:

Candidate A: Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologists. He's had two mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.

Candidate B: He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of whisky every evening.

Candidate C: He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and hasn't had any extramarital affairs.

Which of these candidates would be your choice?

Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt

Candidate B is Winston Churchill

Candidate C is Adolph Hitler
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Quiz question for the RNC, specifically those on the Religious Right.
Who is one of the most revered, and famous community organizers in
history?
JESUS CHRIST
Organize This

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Some folks are having way too much fun making light of (or tearing apart) the community organizer line on Barack Obama's already thin resume, and left-wing bloggers and media types are not amused.

They got their marching orders (no doubt an "important action alert!") and have begun astroturfing blogs and news sites with the following absurd comparison virtually overnight:

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Jesus was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor.
That's a fun gross exaggeration to play with.

Let's do our own moronic comparison, using actual Democrats from this millennia for comparison instead of religious figures born thousands of years ago.

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Bull Conner was a community organizer and George Wallace was a governor.
Their work, of course, was assisted by decades-earlier work of another Democrat community organizer, Nathan Bedford Forrest. Does anyone remember the community he helped pull together?

Of course you do.

Is it fair in any way to put Obama into this company? Of course it isn't. But Barack Obama has as much (or more) in common with these segregationists and Klansman as he does Jesus.

Actually, that isn't true.

To the best of my knowledge, none of these men were part of to a cultish theology that said if God didn't favor their race, then he should be murdered. Barack Obama went to a radical church that practiced this God-threatening Black Liberation Theology for more than 20 years.

A little more relevant for Barack Obama are a few other folks a little closer to his physical and ideological homes.

Charles Manson organized a community of his own, one that Bernadine Dorhn was certainly impressed with. You remember Bernie Dorhn, don't you? She and her husband Bill Ayers had helped form yet another community, one called the Weather Underground. Years later, when they were done with their declared war against the United States, they helped community organizer and friend Barack Obama organize his first political fundraiser in their home.

If liberals want to play games about the meaning and definition of the words community organizer, then by all means, lets play.

It will be a lot more fun for us than them.
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Would he have felt comfortable taking his White mother to that Church?



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Different Strokes for Different Parties?

If you're a minority and you're selected for a job over more qualified candidates you're a "token hire."

If you're a conservative and you're selected for a job over more qualified candidates you're a "game changer."

Black teen pregnancies? A "crisis" in black America.

White teen pregnancies? A "blessed event."

If you grow up in Hawaii you're "exotic."

Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, you're the quintessential "American story."

Similarly, if you name you kid Barack you're "unpatriotic. "

Name your kid Track, you're "colorful."

If you're a Democrat and you make a VP pick without fully vetting the individual you're "reckless."

A Republican who doesn't fully vet is a "maverick."

If you spend 3 years as a community organizer growing your organization from a staff of 1 to 13 and your budget from $70,000 to $400,000, then become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers150,000 new African Amerian voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, then spend nearly 8 more years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, becoming chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, then spend nearly 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of nearly 13 million people, sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you are woefully inexperienced.

If you spend 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, then spend 20 months as the governor of a state with 650,000 people, then you've got the most executive experience of anyone on either ticket, are the Commander in Chief of the Alaska military and are well qualified to lead the nation should you be called upon to do so because your state is the closest state to Russia.

If you are a Democratic male candidate who is popular with millions of people you are an "arrogant celebrity".
If you are a popular Republican female candidate you are "energizing the base".

If you are a younger male candidate who thinks for himself and makes his own decisions you are "presumptuous" .

If you are an older male candidate who makes last minute decisions you refuse to explain, you are a "shoot from the hip" maverick.

If you are a candidate with a Harvard law degree you are "an elitist-out of touch" with the real America.

If you are a legacy (dad and granddad were admirals) graduate of Anapolis, with multiple disciplinary infractions you are a hero.

If you manage a multi-million dollar nationwide campaign, you are an "empty suit".

If you are a part time mayor of a town of 7000 people, you are an "experienced executive".

If you go to a south side Chicago church, your beliefs are "extremist".

If you believe in creationism and don't believe global warming is man made, you are "strongly principled".

If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.

If you have been married to the same woman with whom you've been wed to for 19 years and raising 2 beautiful daughters with, you're "risky".

If you're a black single mother of 4 who waits for 22 hours after her water breaks to seek medical attention, you're an irresponsible parent, endangering the life of your unborn child.

But if you're a white married mother who waits 22 hours, you're spunky.

If you're a 13-year-old Chelsea Clinton, the right-wing press calls you "First dog."

If you're a 17-year old pregnant unwed daughter of a Republican, the right-wing press calls you "beautiful" and "courageous. "

If you kill an endangered species, you're an excellent hunter.

If you have an abortion you’re not a Christian, you're a murderer (forget about if it happen while being date raped.)


If you teach abstinence only in sex education, you get teen parents.

If you teach responsible age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

If you're a Republican senator who solicits gay sex in an airport bathroom, you get to return to your job in the Senate and are encouraged to run for re-election.

If you're a Democratic Senator who is out of public office and have an affair, your political career is over and your wife who has terminal cancer is to blame.

And finally:

Quiz question for the RNC, specifically those on the Religious Right.
Who is one of the most revered, and famous community organizers in
history?
JESUS CHRIST
As noble and necessary as the community organizing Barack Obama did may have been, it was not executive in nature. Just as the fact of John McCain's flying missions as a Naval Aviator over North Vietnam was noble and necessary but wasn't executive in nature.

Although it must be said that after McCain's repatriation he was given an executive Navy job. The command of the largest aviation squadron in the Navy, which involved managing budgets of millions of dollars and commanding thousands of men and women. And he had decent results in that job.

As for Obama and racism, his entire campaign and all the success he has had in the campaign is founded on race. If the racial motive was absent, any of the statements and policy positions of this talented, charismatic man would have been left to fully develop over ten more years.

Geraldine Ferrarro was right when she said Obama would not be where he is today if he was not Black.

Watch the video I posted in this thread.

http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/pol...html#post39894
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