McCain Rescues 12,000 U.S. Flags From DNC Dumpsters

bhkad · #1 (**permalink**) 09-06-2008, 03:18 PM

McCain Rescues 12,000 U.S. Flags From DNC Dumpsters

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Republican Recycling
by David Harsanyi on September 6, 2008

This morning, Republicans tell me that a worker at Invesco Field in Denver saved thousands of unused flags from the Democratic National Convention that were headed for the garbage. Guerrilla campaigning. They will use these flags at their own event today in Colorado Springs with John McCain and Sarah Palin.

Before McCain speaks today, veterans will haul these garbage bags filled with flags out onto the stage — with dramatic effect, no doubt — and tell the story.

“What you see in the picture I sent you is less than half of total flags,” a Republican official emailed. “We estimate the total number to be around 12,000 small flags and one full size 3×5 flag.”

I’m not sure what the DNC was supposed to do with unused hand-flags, frankly. But the Republicans are obviously questioning someone’s patriotism here.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/opinion/...can-recycling/

This is an apt metaphor demonstrating the Obama Democrats' attitude toward American patriotism.

I heard Carl Cameron on Fox say the Obama Campaign has responded to this by saying the flags were in the trash bags by the dumpsters so they could be sent back to the manufacturer.

Mikeyy · #2 (**permalink**) 09-06-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

McCain Rescues 12,000 U.S. Flags From DNC Dumpsters

This is an apt metaphor demonstrating the Obama Democrats' attitude toward American patriotism.

I heard Carl Cameron on Fox say the Obama Campaign has responded to this by saying the flags were in the trash bags by the dumpsters so they could be sent back to the manufacturer.

God the right is sad.

bhkad · #3 (**permalink**) 09-06-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

God the right is sad.

No, certain things have meaning.

If your parents are sick or have passed away you would not take kindly to someone insulting them. Even though you understand that disparaging remarks have no power to hurt your folks nor lessen their beauty and love and their contributions to the world, you still would insist on them and/or their memory being accorded respect.

The flag of this country is nothing more than colored fabric sewn together and used as a symbol.

But it is imbued with meaning by many in this country. And as a material representation of our ideals and a representation of our values it is something that is closely associated with the blood that has been shed in the fights to preserve those ideals and values. It is an icon and all Americans know it is not to be treated disrespectfully.

It seems liberals want to pretend that it has no meaning. And in doing so they not only disrespect the flag but they also risk being charged with disrespecting the ideals and values we live by. And most galling is that liberals would intentionally disrespect the symbol, the icon, and seemingly the values and ideals SIMPLY to flip off the Right.

It is like the abortion debate. How many women do you think might lobby in favor of killing unborn babies SOLELY to 'stick it to' Conservatives?

You think that is too unbelievably petty-minded to be true?

Well, I will remind you that Democrats used the war in Iraq as a way to gain power.

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But we should not veer from the issue at hand...what the trashed U.S. flags say about the Democrats.

They aren't discarding the idea of flags and banners and iconic symbols, they are trashing OUR symbols. They are willing to use them to put on a show and create an image which will help them win power and avoid leaving them open to criticism.

It says they have already decided to throw off our traditional values and they are ready for Obama's CHANGE. A change that is not part of the true American dream. It is something else. Something more in line with the ideology of Karl Marx.

And their message to America can't be any clearer than this.

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cnredd · #4 (**permalink**) 09-06-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

God the right is sad.

Nah...It's pure symbolism...

Just like Obama creating his own presidential seal...

Both sides use it...always have...

Mikeyy · #5 (**permalink**) 09-06-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

Nah...It's pure symbolism...

Just like Obama creating his own presidential seal...

Both sides use it...always have...

Call it what you want. I call it dumpster diving. And I am not surprised they found garbage to report.

cnredd · #6 (**permalink**) 09-06-2008, 06:13 PM

Point of order...

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This morning, Republicans tell me that a worker at Invesco Field in Denver saved thousands of unused flags from the Democratic National Convention that were headed for the garbage.

I’m not sure what the DNC was supposed to do with unused hand-flags, frankly. But the Republicans are obviously questioning someone’s patriotism here.

This is not a situation where these were flags that might have been collected from the floor after Obama's speech...This is not a situation where these were flags that the crowd hah at some point...

They were "unused"...That means they were dumped all at once...Which is saying "We find no future occasions that these flags would be necessary."...

Besides the obvious recycling/green aspect the DNC convention was "supposed" to have, this also comes accross as the DNC as simply "Waste not; want not"...

Mikeyy · #7 (**permalink**) 09-06-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

Point of order...

This is not a situation where these were flags that might have been collected from the floor after Obama's speech...This is not a situation where these were flags that the crowd hah at some point...

They were "unused"...That means they were dumped all at once...Which is saying "We find no future occasions that these flags would be necessary."...

Besides the obvious recycling/green aspect the DNC convention was "supposed" to have, this also comes accross as the DNC as simply "Waste not; want not"...

Your right. Its because down deep the left is anti American. They have never sacrificed for the flag. So how could they love it as much as the right. Who has saved the left from the enemy? Is that sorta what your sayin?

bhkad · #8 (**permalink**) 09-06-2008, 07:04 PM

Well now!

I have seen this kind of thing happen before.

Earlier today when this story first broke I went to Google the matter and found one of the sites which seemed might have corroborating and substantiating evidence of this charge but the site would not work.

In the past when this very same thing happened with regard to the Corsi book and other anti-Obama matters first started coming to the attention of the average person, I merely suspected that Obama's team of techie internet "Obamabots" had incapacitated websites which had damaging or unflattering information about Obama so that nothing could be proved beyond the initial allegations.

I couldn't PROVE that Obama's people were playing dirty internet tricks and, thus neither could I prove any of the allegations being made against Obama.

Access to websites that were harmful to Obama was denied.

Obama would thereby never have to answer for any wrongdoing. He would simply be seen as being followed, wherever he went, by a cloud of accusations and suspicions which his supporters would call SMEARS and attribute to overzealous anti-Obama partisans. Every accusation could be swatted away with the explanation that it was just an example of Conservatives trying to invent non-existent scandals in order to unfairly besmirch Obama.

So, guess what?

Here we go again.

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The Huffington Post

September 6, 2008

Nico Pitney

pitney@huffingtonpost.com | HuffPost Reporting From DC

'Thrown Away Flags' Story False, Dem Convention Official Says

September 6, 2008 03:04 PM

Days before September 11, on the same morning that John McCain and Barack Obama released a joint statement pledging to avoid politics in light of the anniversary of the terrorist attacks, McCain's campaign accused Democrats of throwing away 12,000 American flags.

"The campaign says the flags were recovered from Invesco Field after the Democrats concluded their convention there," Fox News reported, "and they are going to be used as part of the warm-up ceremonies before McCain takes the stage" for a rally in Colorado Springs, Col.

But according to a senior official involved in organizing the Democratic convention, the McCain camp is simply lying about the flags.

"All of the flags at Invesco were picked up and put in bags and into storage, along with the unused flags and campaign signs. The flags were going to be donated, and the signs were going to be sent out to be used elsewhere," the official said, speaking anonymously since he was not authorized to talk to the press.

Fox News' Carl Cameron and Bonney Kapp reported that they had "been told" that "a vendor at Invesco Field found the flags, which were going to be thrown out, and turned them over to the McCain campaign."

The Democratic convention official says that's not true.

"It's pretty reprehensible on their part," he said. "Someone made an assumption, took the flags, and essentially lied about what was going to happen to them. I mean, c'mon, we were never ever going to throw out flags."

Emails to three McCain spokespersons inquiring where the flags were found and how the McCain campaign obtained them were not returned.

UPDATE: DNC spokeswoman Karen Finney issues a statement: "American flags were proudly waved by the 75,000 people who joined Barack Obama at the Democratic Convention. John McCain should applaud that, but instead his supporters wrongfully took leftover bundles of our flags from the stadium to play a cheap political stunt calling into question our patriotism. On the same day he agrees to join Barack Obama at Ground Zero on September 11, John McCain attacks the patriotism of Obama supporters who so proudly waved the American flag at our historic event in Denver just days ago."

UPDATE II: Another statement from the Democratic National Convention Committee: "Stories circulating about flags at the Democratic National Convention are false. We distributed more than 125,000 American made flags at the Convention - the flags removed from Invesco field were intended for other events and taken without permission. It's disappointing that someone would take American flags without authorization and then falsely describe how they were being used. We have the utmost respect for the American flag, and it's sad to see them being used for a cheap political stunt."

'Thrown Away Flags' Story False, Dem Convention Official Says

And the site which might prove the DNC statement above to be a lie is inoperative.

bhkad · #9 (**permalink**) 09-06-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

Your right. Its because down deep the left is anti American. They have never sacrificed for the flag. So how could they love it as much as the right. Who has saved the left from the enemy? Is that sorta what your sayin?

If he isn't, I am.

The last time the Left sacrificed for this country in any statistically significant numbers was when there was a military draft and they were forced to do so.

dabateman · #10 (**permalink**) 09-06-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

If he isn't, I am.

The last time the Left sacrificed for this country in any statistically significant numbers was when there was a military draft and they were forced to do so.

Unsubstantiated. Zero evidence. Speculation. Insinuation. Innuendo.

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