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Old 09-07-2008, 01:27 AM
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No, that was one of the points. Each time you create a post you add points to an argument. 1 out of 400 being validated is not enough to provide you credibility. But keep trying. I'm waiting for your proof of this Obama-techie conspiracy...
I don't need to prove anything to you, snot rag, except the proof the wager requires that I have always substantiated my claims about the Messiah.

So here is a menu for you to access.

Every thread dealing with Obama has a link to the proof.

You are pretty damned unobservant to be willing to call me on this. Everyone knows I ALWAYS substantiate everything I say. Maybe that's how you can manage to have overlooked all of Obama's obvious shortcomings.

You are just an imperceptive liberal who will be finding himself new posters to repulse and astound with your lack of acumen.



Pack your bags.

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Old 09-07-2008, 04:28 AM
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My gawd you are so funny. "I've substantiated everything about the Messiah."



And then when I ask for proof about this tech thing you've created, you say no. And then you say you've substantiated everything. Kinda contradictory.

My argument: Bhkad doesn't provide proof of his claims.

Bhkad's argument: I post other peoples opinions and that proves my claims.

OPINION does NOT equate FACT. Perhaps that's one of those days you missed in second grade.

It's not I who need to do the bagpacking...
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Old 09-07-2008, 04:33 AM
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My gawd you are so funny. "I've substantiated everything about the Messiah."



And then when I ask for proof about this tech thing you've created, you say no. And then you say you've substantiated everything. Kinda contradictory.

My argument: Bhkad doesn't provide proof of his claims.

Bhkad's argument: I post other peoples opinions and that proves my claims.

OPINION does NOT equate FACT. Perhaps that's one of those days you missed in second grade.

It's not I who need to do the bagpacking...
It figures you'd try to back out.

Bitching Chicken.
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Old 09-07-2008, 04:56 AM
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It figures you'd try to back out.

Bitching Chicken.
Back out of what? Who said anything about backing out. I'd be more than happy to continue showing the forum how you have been unable to provide any facts. You just want us to leap to the same conclusion based upon a leading fact.

Example of a true argument...

1. The United States of America has the highest rate of teen suicide.

Now, while that statement may or may not be true, research has been performed by qualified individuals and we can prove that statement to be true or false.

Example of an opinion

2. The United States of America is the greatest country in the world.

While we may FEEL that this is true, we can't really intellectually prove it. The reason it can't be proven is the factors that go into determining "greatest". And then of course anyone who pointed out how America doesn't adhere to the group definition of "greatest" would be a traitor.

You keep locking yourself into positions you cannot win. Which is fine. Debate is not always about winning. The problem is that you are debating your opinions as if they are facts.

Perceptional truth and actual truth are two different things. Actual truth is based upon a conglomeration of the evidence alone. Perceptional truth (also called personal truth) is a lesser conglomeration of non-conclusive facts conjoined with the individuals predispositioned beliefs of the situation.

I don't care what your personal truth is. As you don't care what mine is. I'm for the actual truth and all you keep giving me is this personal truth. You claim to have substantiated your claim, but you've failed to support major leaps in your arguments with facts.
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Old 09-07-2008, 11:48 AM
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Back out of what? Who said anything about backing out. I'd be more than happy to continue showing the forum how you have been unable to provide any facts. You just want us to leap to the same conclusion based upon a leading fact.

Example of a true argument...

1. The United States of America has the highest rate of teen suicide.

Now, while that statement may or may not be true, research has been performed by qualified individuals and we can prove that statement to be true or false.

Example of an opinion

2. The United States of America is the greatest country in the world.

While we may FEEL that this is true, we can't really intellectually prove it. The reason it can't be proven is the factors that go into determining "greatest". And then of course anyone who pointed out how America doesn't adhere to the group definition of "greatest" would be a traitor.

You keep locking yourself into positions you cannot win. Which is fine. Debate is not always about winning. The problem is that you are debating your opinions as if they are facts.

Perceptional truth and actual truth are two different things. Actual truth is based upon a conglomeration of the evidence alone. Perceptional truth (also called personal truth) is a lesser conglomeration of non-conclusive facts conjoined with the individuals predispositioned beliefs of the situation.

I don't care what your personal truth is. As you don't care what mine is. I'm for the actual truth and all you keep giving me is this personal truth. You claim to have substantiated your claim, but you've failed to support major leaps in your arguments with facts.
Pack your bags, 'Cluck-Cluck.'

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