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Old 09-04-2008, 11:21 PM
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Sept. 4, 2008(CBS) The presidential race between Barack Obama and John McCain is now even at 42 percent, according to a new CBS News poll conducted Monday-Wednesday of this week. Twelve percent are undecided according to the poll, and one percent said they wouldn't vote.

This is in contrast to a poll conducted last weekend, where the Obama-Biden ticket led McCain-Palin by eight points, 48 percent to 40 percent.

McCain has also closed the enthusiasm gap some with Obama, but it still exists. Fifty-five percent of Obama's supporters are enthusiastic about their choice, and now so are 35% of McCain's. Last weekend, just 25 percent of McCain's supporters were enthusiastic about him, compared to 67 of Obama's supporters.

This week's polling continues to show voters waiting to decide about Sarah Palin (see yesterday's poll on Palin). But in interviewing done yesterday, 83 percent of registered voters said that spouse and family of a candidate will not affect their votes.

Other factors within the race and overall opinions of the candidates, however, have remained similar from this weekend.

Thirty-eight percent say they have a favorable view of Obama, compared 34 percent unfavorable and 27 percent undecided. For McCain, it's 37 percent favorable, 36 percent unfavorable and 27 percent undecided.

McCain maintains his large advantage on the likelihood of being an effective commander-in-chief - 46 percent of voters say it is "very likely" McCain would be an effective commander-in-chief, compared to 24 percent who say that about Obama.

But McCain still has one big deficit to make up -- just 44 percent of voters say he understands their needs and problems, compared with 60 percent who say that about Obama.

In the poll, Obama continues to have a lead with women voters, 43 percent to 38 percent, while McCain has the edge with men, 46 percent to 41 percent. As has been standard in this campaign, voters under age 45 are backing Obama, while older voters are supporting McCain.

McCain wins the support of married voters and Obama has the backing of voters who are not married. It should be noted, though, that most married voters are older while those who are not married tend to be younger.

Independents in this poll are divided. In the poll conducted over the weekend, Obama had a six-point advantage with this group, but now the lead is three points, 39 percent to 36 percent.

The poll also shows that the majority of Clinton supporters continue to support Obama - 67 percent in this poll, up from 58 percent last weekend.

McCain has seen a similar uptick from white evangelicals since the weekend - 66 percent now, up from 57 percent.
CBS Poll: McCain, Obama Tied, McCain Closes Eight-Point Gap From Poll Taken Last Weekend - CBS News

When do we think McCain/Palin will pull ahead? Will there be a post-convention bounce? And if so, by how much? Will John & Sarah hold that lead if they get it?
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:26 PM
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When do we think McCain/Palin will pull ahead? Will there be a post-convention bounce? And if so, by how much? Will John & Sarah hold that lead if they get it?
It's still too early for any legitimate understanding of the polls...They'll sway up and down as a few things are said...And of course, it could be all over with the slip of the tongue (*cough* Biden! *cough*)...
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When do we think McCain/Palin will pull ahead? Will there be a post-convention bounce? And if so, by how much? Will John & Sarah hold that lead if they get it?
There will be a bounce. Can they hold it? Who knows?
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There will be a bounce. Can they hold it? Who knows?
I hope not, but who knows. We may end up with another serenade from the singing Senator...

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I just don't see Sen. Obama picking up new voters. The people who are still undecided have seen everything that the Obama/Biden ticket has to offer (Dem. party line politics), but I believe that as people see more and more of McCain/Palin's reformist history, there will be more of the fence-riders coming to their support. Right now, what I think McCain/Palin needs to do is stop attacking Sen. Obama and start attacking Congress. Make it clear that they will be the ones digging deep into Congress's incomptency and DOING something about it. Show their history of going after the problems - regardless of party - and build on that. They need to build on America's low approval of Congress and show that they are willing to address that. The only thing that they should be attacking Obama/Biden on is Sen. Obama's lack of experience and Sen. Biden being a huge part of the problem with Congress. If McCain/Palin makes Congress the focus of this election, I think that Obama/Biden will be done.
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Good thread we have here.

I started voting in 1972, when, as a young republican, I voted for Nixon over McGovern.

Jump back to 1968, when Nixon narrowly beat Humphrey. Humphrey was a different democrat then, even though he is not with us. But it seems that the democrats today are different than they were 40 years ago. Are they not?

I took political science in junior college in 1974-1975. The professor said that if the 1968 elections were held a week later, Humphrey would have won (with Edmund Muskie). I guess Nixon's rating in the polls were slipping, and that is why his victory was such a narrow one.

It's too bad that he fell from grace in the 1970's from Watergate, before he resigned in 1974 (oh man, I was vacationing in Alabama when that happened).

He beat McGovern in a landslide in 1972. How tricky Dick managed to stay on for re-election is beyond me, even though he was so far ahead of McGovern.

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I just don't see Sen. Obama picking up new voters. The people who are still undecided have seen everything that the Obama/Biden ticket has to offer (Dem. party line politics), but I believe that as people see more and more of McCain/Palin's reformist history, there will be more of the fence-riders coming to their support. Right now, what I think McCain/Palin needs to do is stop attacking Sen. Obama and start attacking Congress. Make it clear that they will be the ones digging deep into Congress's incomptency and DOING something about it. Show their history of going after the problems - regardless of party - and build on that. They need to build on America's low approval of Congress and show that they are willing to address that. The only thing that they should be attacking Obama/Biden on is Sen. Obama's lack of experience and Sen. Biden being a huge part of the problem with Congress. If McCain/Palin makes Congress the focus of this election, I think that Obama/Biden will be done.

In other words, talk about change, Sounds to me like McCain saw something the worked for Obama and is now retooling it to work for him. Before he was touting his experience, years in Congress. Now, Congress is radioactive. Flip-flop, flip-flop. Once he becomes President, I can look forward to him doing whatever the hell he wants, and then going back to the time when he held that position. At least Obama is consistent.
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I predict that McCain might be as high as he will get during this campaign. There is nothing foreseeable that will change the fact the Obama will have a lead going in to the election.
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I predict that McCain might be as high as he will get during this campaign. There is nothing foreseeable that will change the fact the Obama will have a lead going in to the election.
It will be interesting to see how the polls play out.
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In other words, talk about change, Sounds to me like McCain saw something the worked for Obama and is now retooling it to work for him. Before he was touting his experience, years in Congress. Now, Congress is radioactive. Flip-flop, flip-flop. Once he becomes President, I can look forward to him doing whatever the hell he wants, and then going back to the time when he held that position. At least Obama is consistent.
Obama is evasive, deceptive, inexperienced, manipulative, egocentric, derivative and a profligate taxer.

Evasive in answering questions about his past and his associations.

Deceptive in characterizing his stands on various issues.

Inexperienced as an executive politician and in foreign policy matters.

Manipulative in getting Whites to support his candidacy.

Egocentric in believing he is the Messiah that we've been waiting for to heal the world.

Derivative in terms of how he is merely recycling the old progressive ideas that didn't work in the 1960's and which contributed greatly to our problems of today and tomorrow.

And a profligate taxer in that he seeks to increase our taxes by the trillions.
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