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Old 09-05-2008, 08:56 PM
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Obama is evasive, deceptive, inexperienced, manipulative, egocentric, derivative and a profligate taxer.

Prove it

Evasive in answering questions about his past and his associations.

Prove it's relevant.

Deceptive in characterizing his stands on various issues.

Prove it.

Inexperienced as an executive politician and in foreign policy matters.

Prove it. Define experienced and prove it's importance to judgment and ability to lead.

Manipulative in getting Whites to support his candidacy.

Prove it.

Egocentric in believing he is the Messiah that we've been waiting for to heal the world.

Prove it.

Derivative in terms of how he is merely recycling the old progressive ideas that didn't work in the 1960's and which contributed greatly to our problems of today and tomorrow.

Prove it.

And a profligate taxer in that he seeks to increase our taxes by the trillions.

Prove it.
If you could prove any of this, you might be making a point. At the moment, you are just whining.
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Obama is evasive, deceptive, inexperienced, manipulative, egocentric, derivative and a profligate taxer.

Evasive in answering questions about his past and his associations.

Deceptive in characterizing his stands on various issues.

Inexperienced as an executive politician and in foreign policy matters.

Manipulative in getting Whites to support his candidacy.

Egocentric in believing he is the Messiah that we've been waiting for to heal the world.

Derivative in terms of how he is merely recycling the old progressive ideas that didn't work in the 1960's and which contributed greatly to our problems of today and tomorrow.

And a profligate taxer in that he seeks to increase our taxes by the trillions.
Sneaky black guy manipulating poor dumb whitey.
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Old 09-05-2008, 08:58 PM
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Sneaky black guy manipulating poor dumb whitey.
More race baiting... I love it.
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If you could prove any of this, you might be making a point. At the moment, you are just whining.
THANK YOU!

Thank you for proving how you have failed to adequately vet your Messiah.

All of these issues are a matter of record. And they have even been posted on these pages before now.

How do I know you will pay attention THIS time as opposed to the dozens of times before now when you haven't?

Prove to me you are paying attention and I will prove it to you yet again.
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THANK YOU!

Thank you for proving how you have failed to adequately vet your Messiah.

All of these issues are a matter of record. And they have even been posted on these pages before now.

How do I know you will pay attention THIS time as opposed to the dozens of times before now when you haven't?

Prove to me you are paying attention and I will prove it to you yet again.
You have yet to PROVE anything... you merely paste this crap up here that suggests without evidence, insinuates without saying, or flat out accuses without any basis...

As the person making the argument, you have the obligation to provide supporting documentation when asked. You haven't and apparently can't making you a less than credible source for facts and a less than savory source for informed opinion.
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You have yet to PROVE anything... you merely paste this crap up here that suggests without evidence, insinuates without saying, or flat out accuses without any basis...

As the person making the argument, you have the obligation to provide supporting documentation when asked. You haven't and apparently can't making you a less than credible source for facts and a less than savory source for informed opinion.
I have ALWAYS substantiated my claims and the minute I don't is when you suddenly want proof.

Prove to me you can handle the truth.

Or else search my posts and find the proof I've always posted with my statements.
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I have ALWAYS substantiated my claims and the minute I don't is when you suddenly want proof.

Prove to me you can handle the truth.

Or else search my posts and find the proof I've always posted with my statements.
You have never posted PROOF of anything... you post this list and want us to run and do your work for you. You want us to draw the same conclusions you have drawn instead of you doing the work that you should be doing to make an argument.

I take it that you've never won a formal argument before or if you have, your opponent was weak. A formal argument is more than unsubstantiated rumors or innuendo, which is all you post. A formal argument is a multi-step process by which one establishes credibility. One establishes credibility to citing research from academically respected individuals.

Any moron can find an article through Google that says what they want it to say. A true intellectual researches the issue and provides citations from credible sources. You haven't done that. You are doing the academic equivalent of whining.

Good luck with that though. Sadly no one is buying it.
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I believe there will be a post-convention bounce but it will be minimal.Now we enter the final 60+ days and the economy continues to erode and I believe this to be the main issue the candidates must face.I can hear it now.."are you really better off financialy than you were four years ago?". Will a majority of Americans prefer to elect another Republican and stay the course? The worse the economy gets the more the D's will rise in the polls.
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You have never posted PROOF of anything... you post this list and want us to run and do your work for you. You want us to draw the same conclusions you have drawn instead of you doing the work that you should be doing to make an argument.

I take it that you've never won a formal argument before or if you have, your opponent was weak. A formal argument is more than unsubstantiated rumors or innuendo, which is all you post. A formal argument is a multi-step process by which one establishes credibility. One establishes credibility to citing research from academically respected individuals.

Any moron can find an article through Google that says what they want it to say. A true intellectual researches the issue and provides citations from credible sources. You haven't done that. You are doing the academic equivalent of whining.

Good luck with that though. Sadly no one is buying it.
I realize you are self-loathing but to call yourself a "no one" is a cry for help that shouldn't be ignored. Call a professional therapist.

There is probably a fancy name for what you've got.
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I believe there will be a post-convention bounce but it will be minimal.Now we enter the final 60+ days and the economy continues to erode and I believe this to be the main issue the candidates must face.I can hear it now.."are you really better off financialy than you were four years ago?". Will a majority of Americans prefer to elect another Republican and stay the course? The worse the economy gets the more the D's will rise in the polls.


RCP Average 08/29 - 09/05 -- 46.6 44.2 Obama +2.4

How many voters do you think actually know the CHANGES ahead for them thanks to Obama's radical income redistribution plan?



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In the Wall Street Journal last week, Lawrence Lindsey estimated that the Social Security payroll tax hike alone will “make the private sector $5 poorer … [and only] make the government $1 richer.”

Barack Obama, in bringing back the tax structure of the 1970s, would cause many of the highest earning taxpayers with income from work or self-employment to face a top marginal rate of 60% or more: 39.6% federal, 12.4% Social Security, 2.9% Medicare, and often 5% or higher state and local income taxes.

This is one 1970s show that we don’t need to see. Economic stagnation in the name of class warfare doesn’t play well, even in reruns.
Pajamas Media » Obama’s Taxes: A $2 Trillion Trip Back to the 70s
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