As the REAL Campaign Begins.... - Page 2

saltwn · #11 (**permalink**) 08-31-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Adept1

Simple question........Why is the only fuel for aircraft oil based? You do realize that the only competition for diesel fuel is Kerosene or jet fuel and that the reason diesel has dropped %wise more than gas is because the airlines are beginning to fail. Lets lower our standards some more. America will never ever be as great as it once was because of the liberal ideas attacking EVERYTHING that made our country great.

When Obama told that five year old girl that he was running for president "because our country is not as great as it once was he should have been asked "When was the time that it was better than it is now?" And he would have been shown to be the fool that he is because no matter WHEN he said it was he could have been proven wrong.....I do however fear that his policies will test our greatness because he attacks EVERYTHING that makes our country great.

So what you're saying is your "jello suit" scenario is bogus. Because he did have a plan. He did talk about what he wants to do and how he intends to pay for it. You just disagree with him.

BTW when I remember times not being what they once were in America, was after RR took office. The second term.

DownSouth · #12 (**permalink**) 08-31-2008, 11:25 PM

Americans are troubled by our current direction, and baffled at how we got here. While you are checking out the candidates, I beg you to take 15 minutes to learn about The Project for the New American Century. Wikipedia provides a comprehensive, soundly documented source. PNAC is the most open secret in the USA – over 11 million sources on the internet but almost nonexistent coverage by mainstream media!

In 2000, good people of this nation got suckered and the Republican party got hijacked by a handful of radical neocons whose goal is an imperial America. Bush ran on a platform of “humble foreign policy”, then appointed a dozen PNAC members (Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Perle, etc.) to high posts to carry out a plan to dominate the world, space and cyberspace! (I wish it was just a movie plot!) John McCain was president of the New Citizenship Project, the group which started and channeled funds to PNAC. We only have two wars going on now, folks, but there are many more planned. We won’t have enough children to feed the war machine if we don’t change course. Vote for anyone you like, but please know what you are voting for first! In 2000, we didn’t!

saltwn · #13 (**permalink**) 08-31-2008, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DownSouth

Americans are troubled by our current direction, and baffled at how we got here. While you are checking out the candidates, I beg you to take 15 minutes to learn about The Project for the New American Century. Wikipedia provides a comprehensive, soundly documented source. PNAC is the most open secret in the USA – over 11 million sources on the internet but almost nonexistent coverage by mainstream media!

In 2000, good people of this nation got suckered and the Republican party got hijacked by a handful of radical neocons whose goal is an imperial America. Bush ran on a platform of “humble foreign policy”, then appointed a dozen PNAC members (Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Perle, etc.) to high posts to carry out a plan to dominate the world, space and cyberspace! (I wish it was just a movie plot!) John McCain was president of the New Citizenship Project, the group which started and channeled funds to PNAC. We only have two wars going on now, folks, but there are many more planned. We won’t have enough children to feed the war machine if we don’t change course. Vote for anyone you like, but please know what you are voting for first! In 2000, we didn’t!

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Here's a link and excerpt of what you are talking about:
Project for the New American Century - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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PNAC role in promoting invasion of Iraq

Commentators from divergent parts of the political spectrum––such as Democracy Now! and American Free Press, including Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Jody Williams and former Republican Congressmen Pete McCloskey and Paul Findley––have voiced their concerns about the influence of the PNAC on the decision by President George W. Bush to invade Iraq.[46][47] Some have regarded the PNAC's January 16, 1998 letter to President Clinton, which urged him to embrace a plan for "the removal of Saddam Hussein’s regime from power,"[6] and the large number of members of PNAC appointed to the Bush administration as evidence that the 2003 invasion of Iraq was a foregone conclusion. [38][42][48]

The television program Frontline, broadcast on PBS, presents the PNAC's letter to President Clinton as a notable event in the leadup to the Iraq war.[49]

Media commentators have found it significant that signatories to the PNAC's January 16, 1998 letter to President Clinton (and some of its other position papers, letters, and reports) include such Bush administration officials as Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, John Bolton, Richard Armitage, and Elliott Abrams.[

You will learn the reason for this next comment after you've been aroung here awhile-
I would LOVE to see you and bhkad debate any subject.

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