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Barack Obama's campaign is blasting John McCain for putting "the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency."

The scathing description of Sarah Palin, from Obama spokesman Bill Burton, comes as Democrats scramble to gather a response to a selection that nobody in the political world expected.

"Governor Palin shares John McCain's commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush's failed economic policies -- that's not the change we need, it's just more of the same," added Burton.

Democrats will likely push the inexperience line against Palin as they race to comb oppo files from Wasilla to Juneau.

Jim Jordan, a veteran Democratic strategist, told Politico, "After his attacks on Obama's readiness for the job, it'll be amusing to hear a 71-year-old with a history of health problems justify this decision."

"She's a talent, but that's the end of the experience message from John McCain."
The guy with 150 days as a JUNIOR Senator from Illinois is complaing about a 2 year GOVERNOR (executive) about experience...

Notice how they called her "the former mayor of a town of 9,000" and not even mention the fact that she's a current governor?...
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The guy with 150 days as a JUNIOR Senator from Illinois is complaing about a 2 year GOVERNOR (executive) about experience...

Notice how they called her "the former mayor of a town of 9,000" and not even mention the fact that she's a current governor?...
He has been a senator for longer then 150 days. Count them up. By your count I am about 30 something. Because I slept part of my life so it doesn't count.
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He has been a senator for longer then 150 days. Count them up. By your count I am about 30 something. Because I slept part of my life so it doesn't count.
Oh but when did he start CAMPAIGNING? And how OFTEN is the senate even in session? Governorship is 24/7 365.
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He has been a senator for longer then 150 days. Count them up. By your count I am about 30 something. Because I slept part of my life so it doesn't count.
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Oh but when did he start CAMPAIGNING? And how OFTEN is the senate even in session? Governorship is 24/7 365.
Yup...

There were exactly 143 Senate working days between the time Obama started his first day as a junior Senator and the day he announced his presidential candidacy...
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Yup...

There were exactly 143 Senate working days between the time Obama started his first day as a junior Senator and the day he announced his presidential candidacy...
He is a Senator right now. So is Joe and John. This is a silly notion. Lets debate big stuff. Not partisan popcorn.
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The republicans seem to have their ticket in the right order...
McCain-Palin
the more experienced candidate is first...
while the democrats have their ticket backwards...
Obama-Biden
all the experience is in their second-hand man...

I actually like both VP picks...
Although, I would have rather seen Biden on top of the dem ticket.
I really do think that would make it better.

Noentheless, it should be a good campaign & a close election.
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Let's face it - she's been the mayor of a VERY small city...and she's two years into her FIRST TERM as governor of a state with less than a million citizens - smaller population than many many many cities in other states.

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Some things you didn't know about Sarah Palin

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Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 05:04:30 PM PDT

Sarah Palin was a small town mayor until less than two years ago. What we don't know about her could fill a book. Here are a few things we're learning about Palin.
Sarah Palin left the finances of her town Wasilla in tatters when she moved on in 2002 (h/t xgz). She wanted a legacy as mayor, it seems, and pushed hard for the town to build a hyper-expensive sports complex. But Palin screwed the process up badly. Instead of buying the land for the complex when it was offered, her administration allowed a developer named Gary Lundgren to snap it up. Then Wasilla tried to seize the land from Lundgren through eminent domain. In the end, what with court costs Wasilla paid at least $ 1.7 million for land it could have bought for less than one tenth that sum - if the purchase had been handled properly. For this incompetence, Wasilla is still paying a steep price: higher taxes and cutbacks in services. In other words Palin is about as efficient as Michael Brown, onetime head of FEMA.
Diarist loyalson, a resident of Wasilla, has more to say about the damage Palin did to his town while she was mayor.
On the single most debated issue of our times, the Iraq war, Sarah Palin similarly was out to lunch until as recently as last spring. Shortly after becoming governor, she was asked her views on the surge (h/t LizzyPop):

Alaska Business Monthly: We've lost a lot of Alaska's military members to the war in Iraq. How do you feel about sending more troops into battle, as President Bush is suggesting?
Palin: I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq. I heard on the news about the new deployments, and while I support our president, Condoleezza Rice and the administration, I want to know that we have an exit plan in place; I want assurances that we are doing all we can to keep our troops safe. Every life lost is such a tragedy.

John McCain would have us believe that Iraq is the central battle in the war on terror, and yet he selects as his running mate somebody who was paying almost no attention to the Iraq war for 4 long years after the invasion.
So what was Palin focused on?

Alaska Business Monthly: It's extremely early to ask this, but when your tenure as governor is over, what would you like to have accomplished? How would you like to be remembered?
Palin: I want people to remember me as having always conducted the state's business in an upright and honest manner. I want them to understand that I put Alaska first in every decision I made.

Try to square that with the troopergate scandal, in which Palin allegedly misused her power as governor by bringing inappropriate pressure for two employees to be fired. What's perhaps most interesting is that Palin appears to have begun misusing power almost as soon as she got any real power.
Speaking of inconsistencies, earlier this month Palin praised Barack Obama's energy plan (h/t Excelscior1). Here is the cached version of the press release that had been posted at the Governor's website. The original document has been scrubbed sometime during the last day (since Aug. 28). I wonder if that could have anything to do with McCain's selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate?

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Now, I'm not saying the woman is the anti-christ - but let's be realistic about her vast "executive experience."
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But she's composed and smart and if she does her homework she could take JB in a debate.
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But she's composed and smart and if she does her homework she could take JB in a debate.
I always thinks its important not to underestimate people. But this woman can win all the debates she wants. She has said she doesn't follow international politics. So being good at winning political points in a debate is great for a high school debate. But this is our country at stake. And WTF would she be a good POTUS based on. Barack actually studies the law and is a law professor and foriegn policy as a member of pertinent committees daily. He has traveled and spoken to all of the leaders in the world. Its night and day. McCain went political rather then competent. Where is his regard for the countries well being in this pick? Its purely so he can win (he thinks)
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I always thinks its important not to underestimate people. But this woman can win all the debates she wants. She has said she doesn't follow international politics. So being good at winning political points in a debate is great for a high school debate. But this is our country at stake. And WTF would she be a good POTUS based on. Barack actually studies the law and is a law professor and foriegn policy as a member of pertinent committees daily. He has traveled and spoken to all of the leaders in the world. Its night and day. McCain went political rather then competent. Where is his regard for the countries well being in this pick? Its purely so he can win (he thinks)
And Harry Truman was a school teacher. And Ronald Regan was an actor (not a very good one IMO). JFK was young, but had served in the military, but women of his time period and now too come to think of it, don't have the advantage of becoming "worldly" and well traveled at the expense of the government. Women can join the military but it is still a man's domain.
She got a degree in journalism. And then she wanted to make a difference in her community and state. Nancy Pelosi was a mom who wanted to make her school board and community better for her kids!
As for some people's comments on the lack of population in Alaska, I'm of the mind maybe we need somebody from the rural North or Northwest. After all we have had our fill of easterners and Midwesterners and south westerners and Californians! One thing about small population states, they have all the issues and realities of larger populations-crime, crises, political issues- just in smaller numbers. But those numbers are still relevant to that population!
I think McCain had another reason for picking her besides she is female. She is something of a maverick, and I think he can identify with that.
I'm not saying I will vote for McCain or Obama just yet. I would like to hear more from each candidate and their respective VP choices!
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