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Old 08-27-2008, 03:36 AM
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Obama's Unspoken "Bargain" With America

According to renowned author, Shelby Steele, the reason why we would not elect Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton president is because they are the wrong type of person, the wrong type of Black person.

They are what he calls, "challengers."

On the other hand, the reason so many of us are enthralled by Obama is because he is a different type of Negro.

He is what is known as a "bargainer" and he has made an unspoken bargain with the white voters of America to give them racial absolution.

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Bargaining is a mask that blacks can wear in the American mainstream, one that enables them to put whites at their ease. This mask diffuses the anxiety that goes along with being white in a multiracial society. Bargainers make the subliminal promise to whites not to shame them with America's history of racism, on the condition that they will not hold the bargainer's race against him. And whites love this bargain -- and feel affection for the bargainer -- because it gives them racial innocence in a society where whites live under constant threat of being stigmatized as racist. So the bargainer presents himself as an opportunity for whites to experience racial innocence.

The Obama Bargain - WSJ.com
'Vote for me and I'll set you free!'

Free of your guilt.

Now go forth and be bigoted no more.

Powerful.

But the flaw in that "bargain" is that you are paying for something you already have! You were always free. You don't need anyone to give you a pass.

Tell, you what. Watch the "Wizard of Oz" 5 times and write me an essay on the lesson(s) of the film and I'll give you my absolution medal to wear around your necks.

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Old 08-27-2008, 03:51 AM
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This runs along the same lines as the famous LA Times article written back when Hillary was the presumed nominee and Obama wasn't the celebrity he became...

Obama the 'Magic Negro'

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AS EVERY CARBON-BASED life form on this planet surely knows, Barack Obama, the junior Democratic senator from Illinois, is running for president. Since making his announcement, there has been no end of commentary about him in all quarters — musing over his charisma and the prospect he offers of being the first African American to be elected to the White House.

But it's clear that Obama also is running for an equally important unelected office, in the province of the popular imagination — the "Magic Negro."

The Magic Negro is a figure of postmodern folk culture, coined by snarky 20th century sociologists, to explain a cultural figure who emerged in the wake of Brown vs. Board of Education. "He has no past, he simply appears one day to help the white protagonist," reads the description on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Negro .

He's there to assuage white "guilt" (i.e., the minimal discomfort they feel) over the role of slavery and racial segregation in American history, while replacing stereotypes of a dangerous, highly sexualized black man with a benign figure for whom interracial sexual congress holds no interest...

...Obama's fame right now has little to do with his political record or what he's written in his two (count 'em) books, or even what he's actually said in those stem-winders. It's the way he's said it that counts the most. It's his manner, which, as presidential hopeful Sen. Joe Biden ham-fistedly reminded us, is "articulate." His tone is always genial, his voice warm and unthreatening, and he hasn't called his opponents names (despite being baited by the media).

Like a comic-book superhero, Obama is there to help, out of the sheer goodness of a heart we need not know or understand. For as with all Magic Negroes, the less real he seems, the more desirable he becomes. If he were real, white America couldn't project all its fantasies of curative black benevolence on him.
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I think America -real America-is tired of bigotry. I know I am. I'm tired of giving someone leeway to say something crude because they're old. because they're stupid, or because they ---whatever.

One group of people I didn't count on (because I'm dense ) to support Obama,
are interracial couples and mixed people of all races. They really shine when he speaks about America for us all.

He kind of seems to do what Hitler did only in a reverse sort of fashion. Instead of whipping up a crowd because he makes them believe Aryan blood is special blood, Obama draws out the individual's own specialness and makes that a part of the whole.
Populist? Socialistic? You bet.
But oh, so thrilling.
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According to renowned author, Shelby Steele,

Shit according to renowned poster Mikeyy Shelby Steele has too much to on his hands. And opinions are like you know what. His statement comes from someone who is struggling with slavery guilt. I am past that. So is Obama and almost everyone under 35. His comments are relevant to his take on society and blacks. And thats about all.
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According to renowned author, Shelby Steele,

Shit according to renowned poster Mikeyy Shelby Steele has too much to on his hands. And opinions are like you know what. His statement comes from someone who is struggling with slavery guilt. I am past that. So is Obama and almost everyone under 35. His comments are relevant to his take on society and blacks. And thats about all.
My interests in an Obama vote have nothing to do with "slavery guilt".
This thread has managed to find an author who has conjured up this magical story about Obama, and now people are trying to pretend it is THE motivation for voting for Obama.

Like there aren't other issues involved, like people being pissed off at the Bush corruption White House, and not liking the fact that McCain is embracing it, kissing the ring without reserve.
McCain represents more of the same of the Bush White House. A White House that has a popularity rating in the crapper.
And despite what some people want to stick their head in the sand over, it's for a reason.

I've said it before. One thing I've noticed about the political push on this election is that the "Republican" side isn't jumping up and down about how much they love McCain.
It's all an attack on Obama instead, like he's the anti-Christ. And oh yeah. There's a thread on THAT slur too!

On face value, I have no idea what this thread pretends to do except maybe go after Obama supporters. Anybody who reads the thread who doesn't support Obama because of "slavery guilt" is going to go "so what", cause the thread doesn't say anything about their motivation.
Perhaps its more of an reverse psychology thing where it allows the attackers of Obama to ignore their underlying rational for the attack.

This thread is little more than an underhanded slur against Obama supporters.
That is how out of hand this election mud-slinging has gotten.
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I think America -real America-is tired of bigotry. I know I am. I'm tired of giving someone leeway to say something crude because they're old. because they're stupid, or because they ---whatever.

One group of people I didn't count on (because I'm dense ) to support Obama,
are interracial couples and mixed people of all races. They really shine when he speaks about America for us all.

He kind of seems to do what Hitler did only in a reverse sort of fashion. Instead of whipping up a crowd because he makes them believe Aryan blood is special blood, Obama draws out the individual's own specialness and makes that a part of the whole.
Populist? Socialistic? You bet.
But oh, so thrilling.
Yup!

That's either the biggest reason or the second biggest reason he's where he is.

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According to renowned author, Shelby Steele,

Shit according to renowned poster Mikeyy Shelby Steele has too much to on his hands. And opinions are like you know what. His statement comes from someone who is struggling with slavery guilt. I am past that. So is Obama and almost everyone under 35. His comments are relevant to his take on society and blacks. And thats about all.
Are you being disingenuous or are you so devoid of insight in this matter that you honestly can't see that Steele has nailed it?

American Blacks and Whites recognize there is something to Steele's assertions.
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My interests in an Obama vote have nothing to do with "slavery guilt".
This thread has managed to find an author who has conjured up this magical story about Obama, and now people are trying to pretend it is THE motivation for voting for Obama.
Oh, there is no doubt your orientation and interests are different than most Black or White Americans.

I'm not saying that Obama's "bargain" with America is the ONLY reason for his success in the campaign so far.

He is a good looking, intelligent, charismatic guy.
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Like there aren't other issues involved, like people being pissed off at the Bush corruption White House, and not liking the fact that McCain is embracing it, kissing the ring without reserve.
They could've voted for Hillary if that was the case...They could've voted for Biden if that was the case...They could've voted for Richardson if that was the case...Theu could've voted (etc. etc. etc)...

But they went with Obama...So it HAS to be more than that...
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I personally believe in hearing what a candidate is saying, rather than base my opinions on the color of their skin. Aren't we past that already?
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